Who can I use these two with?

Decided to go for these two. I have no other nodkrai units, so who can fit them into the team?

Also if someone can tell me a team with Sigewinne too I'd love it, but not necessary.

Thanks 🩵

Commentaires

Particular_Eagle_5862026-01-28 19:50

Most of the characters will fit in this team so a alot

aYuShKr4822026-01-28 19:53

Everyone

Holiday-Buy-02026-01-28 20:02

Everyone

Tifas-abs-enjoyer2026-01-28 20:15

Everyone

jams7692026-01-28 20:16

Everyone

DaSpood2026-01-28 20:17

Everyone

NahIdWin7202026-01-28 20:25

Everyone

easterneas2026-01-28 20:35

Everyone

Status-Armadillo66502026-01-28 20:38

Everyone

Relevant_Milk62752026-01-28 20:40

Everyone

Physical-Command21302026-01-28 20:45

Everyone

Organic-Army-90462026-01-28 22:23

i disagree, ineffa bricks niloubloom

Sirlatin962026-01-28 20:18

I dont have everyone though... am i coocked?

Hikash2026-01-28 20:33

You're cocked, sorry.

Omlettedufromag3e2026-01-28 21:52

Rip

neptunoX22026-01-28 21:17

This but said with Cross voice in the NFS MW 2005

PSIGifts2026-01-28 21:54

Even Skirk with Escofier? Been wondering about this. On paper it doesn't seem ideal but people keep saying they work with "everyone"

gaoGaosaurus_true2026-01-28 22:10

And not just the men, but the women and children

La-Roca992026-01-28 19:53

Everyone

I-LEWDED-MY-SISTER2026-01-28 19:57

Nilou, Chevreuse, or Escoffier

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:02

Weaponized misinfo

I-LEWDED-MY-SISTER2026-01-28 20:10

What? No way.

KeyMore94222026-01-28 20:12

Java would probably try it

I-LEWDED-MY-SISTER2026-01-28 20:13

Would watch

Andrew1990M2026-01-28 20:01

These two will do all the damage you need them to by themselves.

But generally speaking you’ll need a healer and maybe whatever Ameno you have for grouping mobs together. So yeah, Sigewinne and Sucrose.

Constant-Fishing2026-01-28 20:03

A healer isn’t that important considering Ineffa shields.

AlaindeshoGT2026-01-28 20:07

And the fact that Prototype amber works really well on Columbina

Mortwight2026-01-28 23:22

she does? man i need to read these kits sometimes

ReginaGuendolina2026-01-28 20:07

DUDE! SIGEWINNE! I forgot she existed. How good is her buff on this duo? Has anyone calc'd it?

KeyMore94222026-01-28 20:11

It'd probably run out really fast, and im not entirely sure if her buff would apply to the reaction dmg mechanic. Idk if anyone calcd it tho

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:16

You don't need to do any calculations to assume she would be worse than most electro and hydro options

ReginaGuendolina2026-01-28 20:20

Not expecting it to be better than any of the top comps or anything. Just curious about it.

I've always liked in games when a character or mechanic that felt useless suddenly gets to fit. With how good sub-dps characters have been getting, if Sigewinne of all characters suddenly got a second wind I'd find it fun.

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:48

Yeah well this is not one of those scenarios. Her entire kit is irrelevant in this setting.

Vegetto_ssj2026-01-28 20:02

Mizuki

Scythro2026-01-29 00:01

Also Aloy, it might be Aloy's best team. Might be.

No-Investment86482026-01-28 20:02

Anyone literally

__breadstick__2026-01-28 20:02

Yes

Pink-Flying-Pie2026-01-28 23:15

right answer here

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:05

People say "everyone" but generally you don't want cryo units

Aside from Flins, a 2nd electro that can be built offensively is generally good for Ineffa's energy and LC damage pool. If they are EM scaling like Cyno, Yae and Sethos it is an extra bonus factor. Finish the team with Sucrose.

Pyro units like Arle can benefit from overvape without messing up the reaction, but they would generally want a 2nd hydro.

Geo on-fielder + Xilonen/Chiori is also a decent combo.

SecyaDenali2026-01-28 23:26

Disagree about cryo units

Eula mika or Eula escoffier or Escoffier Furina worked way too well and the teams were hilarous

Its true they work with everyone

babangelsin2026-01-28 23:28

Define "way too well"

SecyaDenali2026-01-28 23:37

They cleared as fast as Nuevilette it would have been faster with optimial stuff but tried it just to see I knew it would work because ive used Esc/Furina/Ineffa together before

Escoffier and Furina do numbers

CHONPSCa2026-01-28 20:06

I used them with furina and yae for full EQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQ gameplay. I have no regrets. My first ever 36 and it's just me spamming EQ

Edit in case it is still NOT obvious: this isn't about minmaxing bineffa. Those two were unbuilt when i brought them in the abyss and needed someone who could carry them. My fun solution was to bring furina and yae just because EQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQEQ. Idk why i even have to clarify this when it should obvious.

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:07

Furina with no healer?

CHONPSCa2026-01-28 20:07

In PAmber i trust (ineffa almost died)

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:15

PAmber doesn't counteract furina drain. It is less about people dying and more about Furina becoming a useless unit once everyone hits 50%

CHONPSCa2026-01-28 20:18

She still applied a dump truck load of hydro so she had her purpose. Plus, my columbina and ineffa were severely unbuilt at that time. I needed a carry who can spam a lot of hydro, help those two get their burst, and survive. The survive part may be optional because of furina's hp drain. But the team works just enough for those two level 60-80 with unlevelled artifacts to work. Calling ineffa's artifacts unlevelled at that time is probably being optimistic. It was random shit i found in my inventory and was just there to activate the 4pc from morningstar

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:32

>a dump truck load of hydro

For what?

CHONPSCa2026-01-28 20:34

You're just trying to act like you don't know at this point

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:34

No I am genuinely asking why you think extra hydro application is required in this team

CHONPSCa2026-01-28 20:39

My bineffa at that time was never meeting their ER requirements. On top of the fact that they deal pathetic damage on their own. Furina, being a built character, obviously deals a lot of damage on her own.

And if you're gonna bring sucrose up, no. She was busy in the first half.

Sirlatin962026-01-28 20:19

Wait what? Why does she become useless when everyone hits 50?

... maybe this is why i think she sucks, LMAO

Wayfinder52026-01-28 20:23

Cause her burst only stacks when the party's HP changes whether it's decreasing from the HP drain from skill, taking damage, or healing. So once everyone it at 50% HP, Furina's skill no longer drains HP and so you don't get anymore stacks which in turn gives whoever is on field bonus damage. That's why Furina really needs a healer (preferably a party wide one or someone like Xilonen who has very high healing ticks) to fully function

jaysikim2026-01-28 20:23

If you’re not actively healing and draining hp, her burst is functionally useless and she just becomes a mediocre off field hydro dps

SettingSunTzu2026-01-28 20:24

Her dmg buff scales off of hp drained/healed, and her summons stop draining at 50% hp. If no character hp is getting drained or healed, her burst essentially does nothing

Lamora_Camorri2026-01-28 20:25

Her burst buff is calculated by how much hp her teammates gained or lost. She can only drain to 50%, so if you don’t have a healer, and your characters don’t have a way to change their hp much without just taking damage from enemies, Furina’s buff is going to be very very small

Surt34732026-01-28 20:25

Because with no hp fluctuations she cant stack her ult buff at all. So after that first rotation, she's only there for hydro application which isn't exactly one of her strongest suits

The_closet_iscomfy2026-01-28 20:32

Something litteraly no one seems to mention, is that Furina gets a 40% Damage boost if her team is above 50% HP.

So no healers mean way less personal damage

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:34

And it is a base damage multiplier, meaning you are actually losing almost 40% of her damage output

K6fan2026-01-28 20:41

Well, more like 30\~ish, but yeah, it's a lot

CHONPSCa2026-01-28 20:51

Ideally you would want a party wide healer with her because her buff scales off fluctuations

gryphon_duke2026-01-28 20:22

well who else does damage the way she does for hydro

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:32

That damage goes out the window once you hit 50%

Just use sucrose and you are infinitely better off

gryphon_duke2026-01-28 20:39

i think oc's furina team clearing abyss is more entertaining. she's not optimal but literally everyone on the team does turret/summon damage so you can just sit and watch until cooldowns are off

CHONPSCa2026-01-28 20:42

Yeah that was my entire point. Guy thought i was minmaxing bineffa. If that was my point, I wouldn't bring them in floor 12 unbuilt with random artifacts that's just there to activate the 4pc. Ineffa was running a 4 star sands i think? That time lol. Idk if it was def sands. Iirc i was missing an artifact slot too. Probably feather.

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:44

I like how the discussion immediately derails into "well, fun stuff" not initially but only after the gameplay arguments are depleted

Objection1112026-01-28 20:44

Where do you fit the EEEQEEE ?

CHONPSCa2026-01-28 20:54

Between the Q and another Q

Truzon2026-01-28 21:47

Ryze gameplay

Otherwise_Orange91272026-01-28 20:07

Everyone

324Cats2026-01-28 20:10

ifa and ororon

StreetWatercress86092026-01-28 20:11

as long you can maintain LC aura any team is fine

KeyMore94222026-01-28 20:11

Anybody you want to. With sigewinne you could do mono hydro with furina as well, unless that'd be too much hydro app that interferes with lunar charged, but I dont think that's a problem. Pyro mdps could slot in for overvape if you wanted. Anemo drivers, you name it they'll fit in the team well

Lucariolu-Kit2026-01-28 20:11

you could use them with a ham sandwich

Lech2D2026-01-28 21:15

you could also use them with a cheese sandwich

Nozarashi782026-01-28 21:27

They powercrept even Paimon as emergency food

Omlettedufromag3e2026-01-28 21:53

With ketchup

pronounclown2026-01-28 20:13

I think you should use the character called: trygooglingorreadingaguideliketherestofus

Axheron2026-01-28 20:14

I came running to this comments section to yell EVERYONE, but I see everybody else already did 🤣🤣🤣

Ok-Evidence-18962026-01-28 20:15

John wheelchair

Body-Connoiseur692026-01-28 20:15

Sucrose and Fischl

Fabled_Webs2026-01-28 20:16

Dehya and Xinyan. Trust.

InukoJon2026-01-28 20:16

Anyone

burgumbira2026-01-28 20:17

Tho can't you use it with?

Well only cryo DPS you can't use it with. Pyro DPS not really welcome. Can but not good. Aside from that you fine.

Now I just realize why no lunar freeze/vape/overload.

Better-Suggestion9382026-01-28 20:31

There are no lunar freeze/vape/melt cuz they were always good and overload became good after chev and lunar gimmick is just direct buff to weaker reactions

tylertatsch302026-01-28 20:18

Pretty much everyone from Electro, Geo and Dendro.

NekonecroZheng2026-01-28 22:36

Or anemo. So long as they have vv, they're good to go.

HonestoBee2026-01-28 20:22

Anyone team Bro

bluedragjet2026-01-28 20:23

👍

ElTioEnroca2026-01-28 20:24

It would be shorter to answer who *can't* you use these two with

LuckyPlaze2026-01-28 20:25

I’ve been really enjoying pairing them with Zhongli and Xilonen. It’s crazy.

Sometimes Mona and Fischl.

SanjiInHSR_662026-01-28 20:26

As everyone saying they are for literally everyone lol my favorite tho is Them+Chiori and Furina, latest AFK team.

pzlama3332026-01-28 20:26

"Everyone" is definitely wrong. This duo is good enough at their own without other teammate, but if you add some characters who mess up the reaction and remove the hydro-dendro aura on enemy, their will stop doing damage after a few seconds. Columbina's skill can re-apply hydro every 2 seconds, and Ineffa's skill can also re-apply electro every 2 seconds, but if someone remove either hydro or electro between them, then the enemy will not carry hydro-electro aura and your Columbina-Ineffa duo won't do much lunar-charged damage

Better-Suggestion9382026-01-28 20:28

Horse

EntertainmentIll15672026-01-28 20:32

Bennet

sufferIhopeyoudo2026-01-28 20:33

Literally everyone. They’re the meta wheelchair so pick out your fav character that’s been sitting on the bench because they couldn’t keep up and now they’re good enough to keep up.

agentzero20202026-01-28 20:33

You don’t need anyone else.

mctiguy2026-01-28 20:37

Personally my go-to team rn is :

\- Mona (C4)

\- Columbina (C2R1)

\- Fischl (C6)

\- Ineffa (C0R1)

This team does the second boss of SO in under 50s so really not bad.

babangelsin2026-01-28 20:48

replace mona with res shred (preferably sucrose)

Elxjasonx2026-01-28 20:37

Any dps if you equip them with the black Nodkrai artifacts

Kotya-Nyan2026-01-28 20:38

Capitano, he does 100k+ dps with those 2

Cocoatrice2026-01-28 20:39

Yes

AGamingGuy2026-01-28 20:39

yes

Jojozaldo2026-01-28 20:40

everyone except cryo

Matthew2902026-01-28 20:41

Everyone...

except Aloy.

Lullayable2026-01-28 20:43

Pretty much everyone.

Currently, I love them with Mizuki. It's a lot of fun.

I also love them with Navia

noskillz3162026-01-28 20:44

I’m using them with Arlecchino, xilonen… sometime put in aino. So far this team been tearing through enemies easily.

SHTPST_Tianquan2026-01-28 20:46

Columbina: literally anyone

Ineffa: great with other electro + hydro and/or anemo

Scratchy992026-01-28 20:47

The question you should be asking is who can't you use those two with

kifune892026-01-28 20:49

All characters, even Qiqi can use them or Dehya

Levibestdog2026-01-28 20:49

Being ineffaless why everyone is ineffaing feels bad. I only have lauma for nod krai with columbina 😢

I can only pair lauma and columbina

I’m not jealous I promise.

MrKaleb_SigewinneFan2026-01-28 20:55

Don't worry, I was jealous too. That's why I pulled them both

Levibestdog2026-01-28 21:05

Well I hope you’re having fun atleast! Well I was atleast told that if I had layman can do main dps columbina which I didn’t even know was possible at c0 bc I pulled her thinking she was a support for my Childe and fischl 😭

Nebula_Arcanum2026-01-28 20:50

...Yes

AdministrationOk31132026-01-28 20:52

Aloy

Tripdrakony2026-01-28 20:53

Those two are all the units you need. Both can use craftable weapons that are considered their 2nd best f2p option (Ineffa uses Prospectors Shovel and Bina uses Prototype Amber)

Those two are, what we call, a wheelchair comp. They work with anything really. But if you really power it up. Sucrose and another Hydro or Electro unit.

kidanokun2026-01-28 20:59

I guess take them with a Hydro healer

Hritthik022026-01-28 21:00

Anyone and everyone

rootbeerislifeman2026-01-28 21:02

I’ve been running them with Varesa since I don’t have a dedicated team for her yet and she has so much on-field time

lZ3ROl2026-01-28 21:06

You could use the team you just listed. Ineffa, Columbina, Sigewinne, Sucrose/Ifa or any other Anemo on field driver for a Lunar Charge team with the anemo unit as the driver.

Ifa is on banner so you’ll likely have a copy.
That duo of Columbina and Ineffa can carry most units with ease

This-Dream-52782026-01-28 21:07

I use them with Furina and Lauma. Easy clears

Chadzuma2026-01-28 21:08

Just add Sucrose

FitMemory68882026-01-28 21:12

you could probably run amber + anemo traveler

zephyrseija22026-01-28 21:12

Anyone. They are the wheelchair.

Bunnnnii2026-01-28 21:13

I got an unwanted Ineffa and I’ve been using them two with Siegwinne and Ifa. My Lunar charges were hitting for as high as 300K+. I don’t know if that’s good by Lunar-Charge standards. Especially Columbina+Ineffa standards.

I am also welcome to replies for team suggestions! (I don’t like Sucrose, so no)

berrylleth2026-01-28 21:16

I pulled these two for my all-time favorite main Raiden and added Kazuha for a bit of swirl. They’re really fun to play as all of their bursts are always up and they make so much damage, even if not fully leveled and geared. 🤭

Hicci2026-01-28 21:21

Yes

Fa_Kingsman2026-01-28 21:24

Everyone

rf02252026-01-28 21:35

them, sigewinne, furina should be strong and comfy

you can play them with sigewinne and any dps, but hydro/anemo/dendro/electro dps will perform best.

i enjoy playing them with mizuki, ifa/ororon (for lore reasons i play aino and ineffa instead of bina), raiden, neuvi, and tighnari/lauma

rf02252026-01-28 21:36

i also enjoy lauma and ningguang (will replace with zibai) to have every lunar reaction together but it’s not optimal

RiyuuRin2026-01-28 21:37

Dori

Embarrassed-Fly61642026-01-28 21:39

You can even use physical builds with those two

Seaglass21212026-01-28 21:41

Qiqi

ThatOstrichGuy2026-01-28 21:42

add sucrose and your 4th slot doesn't even matter tbh

lezbehonest7872026-01-28 21:52

Anyone. Almost quite literally. Lol

Civil-Ad29852026-01-28 22:00

A really epic Flins

PantheraAuroris2026-01-28 22:07

Not cryo, because cryo got fucked *again* with no lunar freeze.

Otherwise, tack them onto your favorite characters and go.

Onikonokage2026-01-28 22:17

Just with each other. I deploy both of them and before I can get to another character all the opponents are dead.

Express-Bag-39352026-01-28 22:51

You can use them with nearly anyone. They form the wheelchair for pretty much anyone, including Eula.

Now you can have a full core with Sucrose with the two. Could add another hexerei like Durin or go with Fischl instead for EM and Sucrose driver.

They will typically carry the team dps of the team especially with anyone that is deemed to have outdated dps.

Just slap em on anyone, even Cyno, or Gaming, or Tighnari, Dehya, etc.

noch09222026-01-28 23:22

Try ineffa, bina, yae and Barbara

TheKuudereDude2026-01-29 00:12

Sigewinne before C6 is a teamwide healer with minor dmg support so generally pair her with furina/wrio. She has low hydro app so she fits well with teams that require a healer but doesn't want the reactions to be intercepted.

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