I think bina sig as well, since she started at 31k hp then next time she was on, she was at 33k hp
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TheGocho2026-01-29 09:14
You know is the creator experience server because is C0 zibai. Otherwise would be a massacre
rW0HgFyxoJhYka2026-01-29 11:17
Can someone explain how important Illuga is here? Like are you screwed if you only pull for Zibai and skip Illuga? I understand they are basically supposed to work together etc.
Like is Zibai zDPS without her best support?
kara_no_tamashi2026-01-29 11:40
Furina + Xilonen seems to be able to replace Illuga \* Gorou, but it might depend on constellations and build (on the 4 stars and on the 5 stars) and that need to be confirmed on each account after release.
FallenAngelII2026-01-29 12:20
What does Furina even do for Zibai?
Minute_Fig_39792026-01-29 12:25
Out of all the NK Main DPS’s, she has the most elemental damage. Not by much, but it’s something, so the DMG% is good enough. Same applies to Columbina. Her Skill and Burst multipliers are weirdly high for a Lunar character. Furina also lessens Columbina’s ER reqs, so you can go a bit more offensive on her.
StreetWatercress86092026-01-29 14:07
And furina also does decent damage
Minute_Fig_39792026-01-29 14:53
I wouldn’t really call 10-15% damage contribution decent but it’s okay
FlameCats2026-01-29 14:57
But DMG% doesn't work for Lunar Reactions?
Minute_Fig_39792026-01-30 02:03
Yes. It’s what I said in my comment. Zibai and Columbina’s elemental damage is weirdly high for Lunar characters. That’s why DMG Bonus% isn’t a dead stat to them.
FallenAngelII2026-01-29 17:38
That doesn't mean running Furina over Gorou/Illuga is a good idea.
Minute_Fig_39792026-01-30 02:00
I mean, it still is a high dps team regardless. It’s also an option for those that don’t have C6 Gorou or failed to get at least C2 Illuga in her banner. And you can’t really run triple geo with Xilonen outside of C2, and even then you still won’t be able to heal.
kara_no_tamashi2026-01-29 14:56
\_ 20k sub DPS
\_ 25% HP buff to Columbina's damage
\_ 75% dmg bonus to any non lunar damage
\_ makes Xilonen relevant : 36% res shred on Geo (lunar included) and Hydro, + 40% dmg bonus on non lunar damge.
Honnestly, I didn't have a Furina synergie with a Lunar DPS on my bingo card, but it seems (again dependant on build and cons) that Furina (particularly at C1 and c2) might be BiS in Lunar crystalize team.
To be confirmed dependant on build and cons, i repeat.
SecyaDenali2026-01-29 15:07
Might just be a xilobineffa angle if illuga isnt c6 or c2 Illuga bina Zhongli
Furina is omega slow and kills harbringer
maxitola20092026-01-29 15:32
75% dmg bonus? Where are you getting 300 fanfare from in a team with xilonen solo healer?
kara_no_tamashi2026-01-29 16:17
you get them from Xilonen solo healer :)
True though it's only at mid or end of the rotation, I forgot about that.
FallenAngelII2026-01-29 17:36
Furina does **not** do 20K off-field DPS in that team, no way. Prioritizing C0 Columbina's damage over Zibai's is not a good idea.
75% DMG bonus to any non-Lunar DMG, so... a 2% DPS team increase, then?
Xilonen is already relevant. Why do you believe Xilonen needs Furina to be relevant? Also, why should Xilonen be on Scroll? She should be on Instructor.
Everything you said was wrong in some way.
DSpy072026-01-29 11:41
IIRC he only becomes her definite BiS at C6 and even then it's not by a whole lot.
KuraPikaPika692026-01-29 13:15
No Illuga is still definitely BiS at C0. It's just that his C6 is omega good. Basically Faruzan and Chev situation except his C2 and C4 isn't as bad.
SecyaDenali2026-01-29 15:05
That isnt true at all xilonen is better than pre c6 Illuga problem is C0 xilo cant be with gorou/zhongli because of phec
KuraPikaPika692026-01-29 15:06
So she's not better than Illuga? I'm not sure what you're even trying to say.
SecyaDenali2026-01-29 15:08
You literally said hes bis at C0 thats false. Xilonen mogs him only his c6 has value his c2 got nerfed
KuraPikaPika692026-01-29 15:14
Do you know what Zibai's best team is even if you exclude Illuga's C6? I'll give you a hint, it's still Zibai-Illuga-Bina-Gorou and no Xilonen.
Arc-D2026-01-29 15:21
Would it be bineffa xilo?
KuraPikaPika692026-01-29 15:23
Bineffa's kinda cheating. 95% of character's bis team was Mav-Benny-Citlali but nobody would actually call that team the bis. Also at that point sucrose is probably better than Xilonen.
SecyaDenali2026-01-29 15:36
Yeah it worked well enough as a slot option for non c6 or c2 Illuga/Zhongli as a secondary and brutally deals with LC mechanics so 2 teams in one and better aoe, and harbringer is real instead of chiori/furina stuff so it plays out better than a calc sheet
If ineffa for some reason has her sig its actially dumb she just turns into a dps off the field lmao
IS_Mythix2026-01-29 13:58
At c6 he is definitely bis by a good amount
FallenAngelII2026-01-29 12:20
What's a zDPS?
rW0HgFyxoJhYka2026-01-30 02:30
zDPS is a term for "Zero DPS" which is often used in ARPG games where a character is built only for pure support. So for example in Diablo or POE, in a party of 4, one character is a pure support build aka "zero dps". This pure support build actually buffs the other 3 characters dps by more than what they would add by themselves to dps. So its an optimal role
osgili4th2026-01-29 15:10
Basically mandatory, Illuga is a lot of the dmg from this team, keep in mind unlike Flins or Columbina Zibai don't have a 5\* that buff her, so Illua constellations are a massive part of her dmg, is arguably more important than Columbina and a lot more than her Signature.
DellaDae2026-01-29 15:59
According to Zajef, C6 Illuga is BIS, but only by a small margin. Its definitely not worth it continuing to roll for him after you get Zibai.
AlaindeshoGT2026-01-29 05:13
Really good. Omg, she got hands
OftheGates2026-01-29 09:35
She's got HOOVES! 🐴
Jealous-Internal88892026-01-29 05:14
5 days 5 hours 45 minutes left 😞
GuideBusy31022026-01-29 05:27
Enough time for me to get Bineffa
Jealous-Internal88892026-01-29 05:28
I hope you get her early 🫣
SecyaDenali2026-01-29 05:44
Bineffa is like mfn f1 car we the drivers trying to keep up lmao
That aint no wheelchair its a damn rocketship
My ineffa was already randomly hitting enemies in the back for 60k LC now theres 2 of em lmao
AlaindeshoGT2026-01-29 05:48
If i were to get Zibai, i'd also get Columbina her C1, \`couse that turns her into a shielder with lunar crystalize. Absolutely amazing cons
AfternoonSame58532026-01-29 05:36
havent build my Gorou yet :(
RubApprehensive25122026-01-29 06:47
He is stupidly easy to build. Put him on either 4p husk, instructor, or noblesse (idk if zabai uses attack though).
And level up his elemental skill. He only really needs 220er.
PanRychu2026-01-29 13:34
afaik Zibai scales exclusively off defence so Husk or Instructor would be the best choices
D3m0nSl4y3r20102026-01-29 10:11
haven't gotten my Gorou yet :(
originmaple2026-01-29 05:38
Was that a 1.3mil from ult??
Frozenmagicaster2026-01-29 06:04
that was when it had its abyssal shield up where it takes like 3x lunar reaction damage
luffy_Themasterpeice2026-01-29 06:49
433k still .... not bad for c0 r1
Koniolg2026-01-29 06:15
surely c0r0 Zibai with c0 4* teammates will be enough, right?
RIGHT? ( plase zibai save my fearless streak 😭🙏)
NekoSoKawaii2026-01-29 12:13
should be, depends on your build obviously and gameplay, and every con you get from her banner for the 4 stars help too.
Koniolg2026-01-29 12:16
I unsuccessfully spent all my primos on columbina </3
Prestigious_Suit22272026-01-29 06:17
The neighing is alot ngl lol, otherwise this is rlly what ningguang should have been 😭
dunia012026-01-29 06:22
If this is C0R1, with Bina C0R1, with Illuga C6 and Gorou C6... Against Fearless Difficulty... I was expecting more.
JMP_172026-01-29 06:38
To be fair, she is the only nod-krai dps without a dedicated 5-star support/sub dps for her specific reaction
smolpeter2026-01-29 06:49
It’s not really a Zibai problem. It’s more of a Illuga problem. Ineffa and Lauma do provide a lot of damage for Flins and Nefer respectively and Illuga doesn’t have good off field dps. Zibai is a strong unit on paper, but she lacks her own Ineffa/Lauma. A C6 Illuga isn’t even comparable to what Ineffa and Lauma does to their respective teams.
shre32932026-01-29 12:00
yes but she is balanced around that, base Zibai is stronger than Flins and Nefer exactly because Illuga at c6 can't compare to lauma and ineffa. its just this boss problem, it has crazy hp.
FallenAngelII2026-01-29 12:22
Lauma barely does damage on a Nefer team...
MachinegunFireDodger2026-01-29 13:29
Personally yes, but her burst quills add A LOT.
FallenAngelII2026-01-29 17:38
Aah, that's what they meant. Weird way of saying "buffs".
caucassius2026-01-29 11:35
this team really needs a res shred so zhongli is better than gorou here (40% res shred from his shield and geo resonance)
VampireLorne2026-01-29 14:05
What if zhongli replaced illuga instead?
Berry_Sprout2026-01-29 16:58
Just worst sadly
trailnix2026-01-29 06:37
Yixuan with horse noises this is so peak
RubApprehensive25122026-01-29 06:45
I never thought I would see a day where Ms. Hina would be a support for a meta character again.
NekoSoKawaii2026-01-29 12:11
"again"
E1lySym2026-01-29 13:02
He's bis support for hypercarry hexerei Albedo
Specsaman2026-01-29 15:22
Its just if there’s def on field, there’s gorou on the team
Hreidr2026-01-29 06:48
Can she clear without Illuga and sig?
xess2026-01-29 16:07
I saw a video comparison. Someone did it with HoD in 83 secs with Bina, illuga and ZL. 71 secs with sig.
Moon_Luzes2026-01-29 06:55
It's so weird seeing Gorou on another team outside Itto/Noelle Mono Geo
Junazard2026-01-29 07:58
Never thought I would see the day of dhcwsp C0 posting
SenseiEA2026-01-29 08:37
Can you try C0 Zibai C0 illuga C6 Gorou C0 Columbina as this may be the general consensus team people would have
ankitjad2026-01-29 09:32
I'm so cooked.. I don't even got Gorou or illuga C6.. I wont say her dmg is disappointing but my zibai's would be...
She's my first 5* Geo dps in my 5 yrs of playing
Mattwew-2026-01-29 10:30
Gorou is absolutely replaceable. Zhongli, Chiori if you don't need sustain, are better than gorou if he's not c6 and even then they might still be better if well built. If you don't have those two either, Zibai Columbina Furina Xilonen works too and is not even that behind the triple geo variant (assuming no cons on Illuga)
ankitjad2026-01-29 10:44
I only have noelle, Yunjin and ninguang raised in geo and now gorou + iilluga lol for zibai
Mattwew-2026-01-29 10:47
As long as you get Illuga (preferably c2) and Gorou on her banner you'll be fine don't worry, especially with Columbina as a Hydro slot if you have her (but Aino is fine too). Zibai really is "more f2p friendly" compared to the other NK DPSs
Geraltpoonslayer2026-01-29 11:33
I mean no one has illuga c6 it's his first banner. Gorou is replaceable and some leak in the water told me their might be a replacement soon.
For a 2 cost team zibai puts in solid work and if your willing to go for c1 to get a comparable cost team to flins she becomes the best dps if you pick up c6 illuga along the way.
MegatronusPrimeZ2026-01-29 09:36
I wanna hear hoyo's logic of her being stronger than Varka
Frozenmagicaster2026-01-29 10:25
related to Istaroth +1 point
Chinese +5 points
they want that red envelope money +100 points
peruanToph2026-01-29 11:22
She’s a literal angel related to the 3 Moons, Istaroth and Adepti legends
Bro is a strong knight captain
isairr2026-01-29 10:47
Those horse sounds are so awful , way too frequent and monotone. Will get tiring really fast.
Beneficial_Copy46602026-01-29 12:17
wym its so peak
Significant-Gear2872026-01-29 10:59
Is Gorou C6?
headphonesnotstirred2026-01-29 13:00
she has a Nightsoul bar for Phase Shift Radiance? pretty neat, i guess
kokko6932026-01-29 13:11
We agree that gorou is only good for Zibai if C6, that's right ?
MaitieS2026-01-29 14:42
lvl 110 when?
Seaglass21212026-01-29 14:53
Bruh, they rlly kept the horse noises? 😑
Biggus_Shrimpus2026-01-29 18:31
💀
nnm_UA2026-01-29 15:13
I haven't played Genshin in 3 years,
\- there is a character named "Columbina"? bruh
\- does the enemy do anything else besides having HP and just standing there?
Nexius_2026-01-29 15:42
powercreep is so awesome, hits for multiple hundreds of thousands meanwhile a guy like Tartaglia hits for like 4,000
Paiguy72026-01-29 16:01
Should really be noting the sigs in a post like this as well because that doubles the cost.
cookiboogie2026-01-29 16:28
The captions tho what the helly
Biggus_Shrimpus2026-01-29 18:30
Does this hurt the horse? It’s making a lot of noises /s
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I think bina sig as well, since she started at 31k hp then next time she was on, she was at 33k hp
Like is Zibai zDPS without her best support?
\_ 25% HP buff to Columbina's damage
\_ 75% dmg bonus to any non lunar damage
\_ makes Xilonen relevant : 36% res shred on Geo (lunar included) and Hydro, + 40% dmg bonus on non lunar damge.
Honnestly, I didn't have a Furina synergie with a Lunar DPS on my bingo card, but it seems (again dependant on build and cons) that Furina (particularly at C1 and c2) might be BiS in Lunar crystalize team.
To be confirmed dependant on build and cons, i repeat.
Furina is omega slow and kills harbringer
True though it's only at mid or end of the rotation, I forgot about that.
75% DMG bonus to any non-Lunar DMG, so... a 2% DPS team increase, then?
Xilonen is already relevant. Why do you believe Xilonen needs Furina to be relevant? Also, why should Xilonen be on Scroll? She should be on Instructor.
Everything you said was wrong in some way.
If ineffa for some reason has her sig its actially dumb she just turns into a dps off the field lmao
That aint no wheelchair its a damn rocketship
My ineffa was already randomly hitting enemies in the back for 60k LC now theres 2 of em lmao
And level up his elemental skill. He only really needs 220er.
RIGHT? ( plase zibai save my fearless streak 😭🙏)
She's my first 5* Geo dps in my 5 yrs of playing
For a 2 cost team zibai puts in solid work and if your willing to go for c1 to get a comparable cost team to flins she becomes the best dps if you pick up c6 illuga along the way.
Chinese +5 points
they want that red envelope money +100 points
Bro is a strong knight captain
\- there is a character named "Columbina"? bruh
\- does the enemy do anything else besides having HP and just standing there?