An important detail many people missed in the 6.3 AQs *spoilers*

This is more of a summary post to condense the info. A more detailed analysis of their dialogue can be found here and is the person who made the discovery between the 2 personalities:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DottoreMains/s/ZAcTrSTSae

I have their permission to make this. I think it's a fun detail? We even fought both of them! Though without realizing it. Growth Dottore is also the one who chips Wanderer on the shoulder.

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Weaponmaster4702026-01-30 15:00

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nanimeanswhat2026-01-30 15:20

Do you really have nothing better to do than commenting on every dottore post like a yandere fangirl?

Let people theorise and stop being an a-hole for once. If it's false then it's false.

Weaponmaster4702026-01-30 15:22

Yo bro, when's he getting the next Vecna ripoff quote to trick a chunk of the EN fanbase again?

Or is Zandik plagiarizing another bad guy this time?

ejsks2026-01-30 15:42

What are you even blabbering about?

Disastrous_Smile_8932026-01-30 15:55

top 1% commenter and it shows, take a break from reddit if you're going this crazy over a fictional character

drawerice2026-01-30 16:04

Yeah, these people are far more obsessed with Dottore and with Dottore-related content than his actual fans are. It takes like two taps to hide content like this, but they just gotta be an asshole for no legitimate reason lmao

Rain-Maker332026-01-30 16:53

It's fine. These people don't seem to be the crazy type of dottore fans. Like, the type that blames Collei for getting experimented on, and goes "Oh, he's just a misunderstood baby!!!"

noncontrolled2026-01-30 17:28

Zandik “The Doctor” Il Dottore killed this guy’s grandma, okay?

Ryuunoru2026-01-30 22:57

Sure honey, why not. You can think about it tomorrow, it's bedtime now!

AKSHAT1234A2026-01-30 17:16

Some people in this community really can't handle someone being a fan of an actual bad guy god damn.

Several_Bathroom_1962026-01-30 19:31

Genshin players: We want evil characters!!! How dare hoyo not give us pure evil playable characters!!! We're not scared!!!

Genshin players when dottore is pure evil: Ewww it's dottore get the fuck out of my screen!!! I want this guy to die and never be playable how dare they make someone irredeemable!!!

Genshin players when rhinedoitter is worse than dottore: Omg my beautiful queen!!!! Hoyooo give me booba NOW!!!! Rhinedoitter didn't do ANYTHING wrong!!!

CantaloupeParking2392026-01-31 02:32

Yep if Dottore was a woman, she wouldnt get this amount of hate.

Also funny thing is, he is not 100% pure evil. Amoral is more fitting. He doesnt hurt people for funsies.

Rain-Maker332026-01-31 07:07

Even Rhinedottir has emotional attachments to other characters and regrets, as shown in Durin's AQ with how she regrets screwing up OG Durin. She has humanizing moments. But no one is saying she did nothing wrong. So, don't bother with strawmen.

But Dottore didn't have a single humanizing emotional moment. Just narcissistic evil. That's fine, though. People can just appreciate that he is a cool looking antagonist who's fun to hate.

Tbh, pure evil villains are just exasperating to watch as writers can just give them so leeway to do whatever they won't. Because it's more 'realistic' for bad things to happen, right?

Jibsthelord2026-01-30 21:01

Wait until they learn about Bondrewd

Ryuunoru2026-01-30 22:55

This response suggests you can't imagine people thinking up theories without aid from a chatbot, which in turn indicates you are not intelligent enough to do the same thing yourself. Well done, you played yourself.

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nlopnlipa2026-01-30 15:10

>Usually after a couple of hours of button constant mashing to make the dialogue advance, I do not even look at the screen any more.

Bro if you're that bored of the game just get a script to do it. What's the point of your comment anyway?

InersDraco2026-01-30 15:30

Hoyo bans autoclickes btw

Difficult-Ground-6602026-01-30 15:12

Interesting observation, the animal body swap did hinted at something like this.

Roasted_Fries2026-01-31 04:15

Hold up, you might be on to something

EuraLapist2026-01-31 06:55

Dottore in a fur suit. It was foreshadowed back in Sumeru.

grumpykruppy2026-01-30 15:13

At this point, it wouldn't even surprise me if this turns out to be true.

Last-Marsupial92412026-01-30 15:22

I had noticed the disappearance of the trilune, and now it makes so much sense!
Also the area for body swap. WOW

xiastrr2026-01-30 15:30

Was wondering why his trilune thingy kept disappearing in some scenes

JDBCool2026-01-30 17:41

I guess it would be his "humanity" speaking to us in those moments???

xiastrr2026-01-30 18:04

in the detailed post i also realised how this could also reflect why there were two masks in the version art so that could also answer that

TheBirdNamedSparrow2026-01-30 15:57

I mean his experiment did involve swapping bodies so.....

Throwaway-_-Anxiety2026-01-31 00:57

What if he swapped to aino, and just started acting exactly like aino because life be simple with krumkakke.

random_gamer692026-01-31 04:33

Omg imagine Dottore intentionally eating too many sweets just to remain unsuspicious to Ineffa-

Firm-Soil-31762026-01-31 04:41

rerir cat moment again lmfaoo

GetFiltered2026-01-31 04:45

Bratty Dottore needs to be corrected 💢💢💢 😭😭😭

EuraLapist2026-01-31 06:54

The what happened to real Aino 😱

SHTPST_Tianquan2026-01-30 16:02

i swear i didn't notice the trilune missing despite watching this multiple times and being astonished with the direction in this sequence. Incredible.

Also, i'm gonna add my 2 cents on top of this: during trilune-dottore sequences during the big dialogue part, whenever possible, the camera is ALWAYS set at an angle so that trilune-dottore stands above, either by actual physical displacement or so that in the scene, Doctore is above, almost like the traveler is, in fact, revering a god.

But this essentially stops once non-trilune dottore shows up later, after the air-swimming scene. I thought that it was simply because during that part they decided to use another cinematic language, as you can see dottore often with his back facing the traveler, or the camera visualizing dottore from Behind. But there's more that i had failed to catch up with.

verteego_2026-01-30 16:14

Didn’t Dottore agree to kill off all his segments in exchange for the Gnoses back in Sumeru? How would this be possible?

Jimzilla032026-01-30 16:17

its been like 3 years in the story since then theres no way hes stupid enough to not make more after that

drakusmaximusrex2026-01-30 16:18

Well maybe he lied, also the deal didnt specify not making any new Segments so maybe he made one?

FlakyDragonfruit67032026-01-30 16:20

Presumably, he agreed to kill off all \*existing\* segments in exchange for the Gnoses.

There wasn't anything in the clause that said he could create another afterwards, only that it's extremely costly and time-consuming. I wouldn't be surprised if the Trilune Authority helped to expedite the process in some way though.

Koanos2026-01-30 18:07

> I wouldn't be surprised if the Trilune Authority helped to expedite the process in some way though.

I'm with you on this, if you can make Segments without the Authority, shouldn't the Authority make being able to create those Segments with ease?

If you can't, is it because of time? But Dottore explicitly stated he has trouble with controlling time, what did he test beforehand?

Spoopy_Kirei2026-01-31 04:11

In the boss fight, he creates what looks like hologram clones. I first assumed it was just like Nefer's style but maybe they were a lower level version of segments

KrzyDankus2026-01-30 16:26

he did always say it would only be a matter of time before he finds new perspectives and it's been a while since Sumeru AQ

also Nahida never said he couldn't make new ones

ItaLOLXD2026-01-30 16:40

There are two theories I heard about:

1. Dottore simply made more segments after eliminating all segments since the deal never said he couldn't make more after destroying them.
2. The Dottore that made the deal in Sumeru was a segment himself, so he himself was not included to be destroyed. And obviously this would not have affected the original Dottore either. After destroying all the segments, the deal-segment and the original Dottore were the only ones left. So it's likely that the real Dottore holds the Trilune at first meanwhile the segment was the one without in this dialogue, the one that fought us at the end of the Archon Quest and the one that was killed by Columbina.

verteego_2026-01-30 16:47

Yeah you all made valid points, I just really wanted him gone lmao

noncontrolled2026-01-30 17:06

Hoyo loves him way too much to just let him get nuked and have that be that. He’s got one more in him.

CantaloupeParking2392026-01-31 02:26

He can die after they make him playable. I mean, I dont want him to die but if they really have to kill him, just make him playable first. Fucking tired of strongest male Harbingers getting killed or turned into vegetables. Is Pantalone next? 😭

get_on_with_life2026-01-30 18:52

We've still got to wait for him to burn Irminsul before he's gone.

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-31 01:37

He's still gotta burn irminsul somehow

RinBaka2026-01-30 16:46

Honestly, the concept of segments is too interesting to just throw away like that. But I like to think the deal with Nahida is meant to place some constraints that he has to work around now.

Luster-Purge2026-01-30 16:48

All he said about that was it would be a *major* expenditure of resources (or something to that nature) to recreate them. Nahida just wanted the current batch destroyed. Neither party said anything about *not* making replacements.

LeagueOfHurricane2026-01-30 17:19

He did say to Nahida that destroying his segments would just be a setback for him. He either created new segments or just found a new and improved way to be at multple places at once.

ShimoriShimamoto2026-01-30 17:22

Multiple ways he could get clones again:

1. Create more
2. Didnt actually kill all of them
3. Trilune gave him authority over life, death, time, space and reason, he can create a new clone with those powers

Ryuunoru2026-01-30 22:48

Option 2 is likely excluded because Nahida used mental plotforce to confirm all other segments were destroyed.

ShimoriShimamoto2026-01-30 22:55

Unless the one she was talking to was a segment instead of the original, so the dottore she would detect is a fake segment one, while real dottore was not accounted for, and he could have used the one surviving segment to create more

Ryuunoru2026-01-30 22:59

That one was indeed a segment, and Omega and Original remained. But he did still kill all other segments - the original is not a segment.

AntiSocial_Vigilante2026-01-30 17:45

You say it like he wasn't near omnipotent.

Ryuunoru2026-01-30 22:49

He wasn't. He becames really powerful, but had not mastered the primordial powers. Otherwise there was no way he would lose - bro could already teleport. If he had mastered Death for example, he would just jump to each of the good guys individually and finger snap them out of existence. If he had mastered Life, he could have given them immobilizing super cancer.

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-31 01:37

He agreed to kill them off at the point of agreement with Nahida. He did not promise that he would not make more.

CantaloupeParking2392026-01-31 02:24

Dottore who agreed to it was also a segment. And there might still be the og Zandik alive somehow

Luster-Purge2026-01-30 16:52

Would also fit with the duality of Dottore and Columbina having similar but ultimately opposite directions in character progression. Namely - Columbina *herself* does something related when she splits part of her soul off to become the special fairy thing (I forgot the exact name) that acts as a temporal anchor of sorts, and post-AQ dialogue establishes that piece of soul was presumably re-absorbed into her now that her issues are dealt with.

Iffem2026-01-30 22:44

Luonnotar

jibbycanoe2026-01-30 16:53

Dottore fans when they see a plastic bag swirling in the wind in a vacant parking lot:

"Here's a 10,000 word analysis of why this means he'll be back"

StarJolion2026-01-30 16:57

It's enough to simply look at the images with short text on them. The essay is just a bonus.

Ryuunoru2026-01-30 22:53

I'm not even a fan and believe he will come back. Something something segments mind swap.

CantaloupeParking2392026-01-31 02:30

And whats wrong with theories? Also its clear af that something sus was going on, and in-game evidence is the glitch at the end of the AQ.

Lorellya2026-01-30 17:03

And people say he's dead lmao

noncontrolled2026-01-30 17:27

We call that wishful thinking 🤭

EntertainmentIll15672026-01-30 17:06

Thank you fellow GOATtore glazer. The segment agenda stands strong thanks to you.

# 7.0 STRONG RETURN!

Saveonion2026-01-30 17:07

Could it be like a Rick's situation?

We meet the Dottorest Dottore?

Lubinski642026-01-30 17:28

While i do think he will return, i don't buy the body swapping thing. He's literally a god who can alter reality to his wishes, why pull Houdini during combat when he can do everything at the snap of his fingers? If he wishes trilune be invisible it would be invisible.

And the simplest explaination for why it sometimes disappears is that it would be a distracting big ass mechanical moon floating in the frame.

StarJolion2026-01-30 18:03

First off, in the same vein if he's a god why care about putting away his Trilune randomly?

He was negotiating with Traveler. I think since it looked like he might be unsuccessful he was trying to use 2 personalities to get through.

Some say he got a flair of arrogance after the deal with Nahida and thought he could make a deal with the Traveler the same way. He explains during the convo that Descenders are interesting to him.

Edit: Plus "it's better to flee than to surrender" definitely sounds like it's coming from someone who always wants a body double around to let him flee.

Iffem2026-01-30 22:42

... he was doing a one-man good cop, bad cop routine

Ryuunoru2026-01-30 22:45

> i don't buy the body swapping thing

He was literally experimenting with that exact thing.

>He's literally a god who can alter reality to his wishes

He can't, or he wouldn't need experiments. He also said he was still getting used to the time powers.

>why pull Houdini during combat when he can do everything at the snap of his fingers?

Because he can't do everything at the snap of his fingers. Remember that time where he snapped his fingers, tore open the sky, raised a hand shaped platform and was defeated by the power of friendship? Yeah.

>And the simplest explaination for why it sometimes disappears is that it would be a distracting big ass mechanical moon floating in the frame.

Now that actually makes sense.

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-31 01:36

Imo, he knows he's going to be defeated. So he prepares a backup Segment so that "Dottore" never dies out.

Also, remember the burning Irminsul in the Sumeru Teaser? Dead Dottore is probably gonna burn Irminsul for the inside out.

Cloudbyte_Pony2026-01-31 03:39

Back in Sumeru he literally told Nahida that as an experimenter, he *must* consider every single possibility, that such has been a core directive his whole life, and the possibility that Nahida could awaken the Heavenly Principles was enough to make him negotiate for the Gnosis instead of just taking them by force.

He must have considered the possibility of losing against the Traveler / Nod Krai alliance, so he probably had one or two contingency plans.

He correctly deducted they were trying to bring Columbina back after all

KazakiriKaoru2026-01-31 03:58

Yep. I'm not a dottore glazer, but his "death" was very anti-climactic imo. He's not dead yet. There's another Segment somewhere

rosalyn78902026-01-30 17:53

amazing catch! I didn't notice at all

MeowieSugie2026-01-30 18:34

Hold up, you are cooking

FormerResort2932026-01-30 19:03

But loosing 3 moon power can't be worth it .. right ? Bec he gained nothing 🤔or maybe he had already created what he wanted let's assume something like a vessel for power .... Whatever it will be fun to kill him again 😁

StarJolion2026-01-30 19:14

I believe he started a dream sequence as soon as he lost his 1st marrow in the final fight, since in a previous cutscene (act 6 end) that caused him to lose control over his powers. Going by that no, he might not have lost them at all, but Columbina is supposed to be powerful too so idk.

FormerResort2932026-01-30 19:37

Columbina was too powerful to be fool by dream but also he wasn't putting much of a fight bec no matter how much power of freindship lauma,nefer,flins gather there final blow was too easy for dottre counter .... Maybe he did had a plan going on for that also

nanimeanswhat2026-01-30 23:29

I have a theory that he wanted to fabricate his death to infiltrate the leylines.

ilurkcuzimboring2026-01-30 19:07

i dont think hes dead though and not even by looking at the possibility of body swap but because genshin needs a villain character whos downright evil and dottore is perfect for this and it would just be a waste to build an evil character from scratch again after all that exposition of dottore. the waifus cant be downright evil like the shades because theyre waifus and they will sell more than husbandos. they already have an evil turned around character and i doubt theyll pull a senora. so yeah, hell be back.

Silkav2026-01-30 19:43

I noticed it disappearing but didn't think much of it.

SyndicatePhoenix2026-01-30 19:59

Interesting observations.

However the bodyswapping thing... exactly what would he gain by swapping this quickly? He already worked with more than 2 segments before Sumeru,so swapping bodies is nothing new. Switching moods is nothing new either (no character is ever going to feel JUST happy or JUST angry,even if happy/angry is their main and most used mood).

The experiment with animals is a bit different. It was a human swapping body with an animal (different species) rather than human swapping it's body with something that was made to function like a human body and mostly re-created to function as closly to human body as possible. It looks like he is working up to something big,so he is testing out some theories he has,but I doubt he would make himself part of the experiment (if it went wrong he could drop dead). So he tries it out on unknowing subjects for now. It also dosen't make sense for him to multitask when he is facing a Descender that has the will to change the bloody world. ALL of his focus is needed on the fight itself,not the experiment itself. He can check the results of experiment later.

As for the experiment... maybe he is gathering data so he can (in the future) swap his body with a higher-level being (a God,Shade, Non-human being) to avoid death or gain more power). Or even become an animal and be able to spy on people from close-up, without being detected.

StarJolion2026-01-30 21:01

Hmm, remember the glitchy pigeon from Columbina's demo? Maybe the "segment in the prime of his life" she was looking for during Winter Lazzo has a message for her.

Ryuunoru2026-01-30 22:52

> exactly what would he gain by swapping this quickly?

Swapping his mind between Segments. Would be insanely useful for Omega to preserve himself, in particular his knowledge of everything he achieved in Nod-Krai. This would allow him to survive Columbina's Super Friendship Moonray Pewwwwwwww, at the cost of a segment after mind swapping. Which is probably no big deal, because he had sacrificed segments in the past.

kidanokun2026-01-30 20:21

Bro cooked a Memchelin 5-star cooking

Frustrella2026-01-30 21:01

I think is just for convenience for the scenes, he is just making it appear and disappear

StarJolion2026-01-30 21:29

Why would he need to bother with that? That doesn't make much sense since it's such an important item.

Frustrella2026-01-30 21:41

So the traveler doesn't attack it, and only making it appear to brag about what he accomplished

StarJolion2026-01-30 21:46

I don't think he thought of the Traveler as a threat at any point. They both agreed that he could end Traveler's life anytime he wanted. However that was not his main goal by capturing Traveler, so Dottore never pulled the trigger. The Traveler stabbing him also did nothing beyond some emotional damage.

Zaazuka2026-01-31 12:47

But Dottore was also aware that taking any of the marrows would weaken him.

After the Traveler backstabs him, he predicts that they will try to take one of the marrows.

StarJolion2026-01-31 13:42

Doesn't make sense because he starts showing the marrows after taking the backstabbing when he could've kept it hidden. Unless you mean he showed it as bait so Traveler would fall for his gravity attack?

jinxedandcursed2026-01-31 04:47

I feel like if he was making it disappear, they would animate that at least once with the weapon particle effect. Instead they actually "switch" Dottores when he's off screen. We can say they were lazy, but equally so there are other odd things about this quest that could in part be explained by there being two different Dottores switching out from our perspective.

DevolayS2026-01-30 21:06

Now the real question is whether the experiment with mind swapping was a chekhov's gun or a red herring...

And how did Dottore get the other self to cooperate. I thought they hated each other.

StarJolion2026-01-30 21:09

If it was the lizard from the beginning of the AQ then it basically let him spy on our plan and prep accordingly, but I do think there was another purpose to it (pigeon from Columbina's demo which showed us an abstract version of her story).

Neospanner2026-01-30 22:22

I think that "hatred" is too strong a way to put it. The current Dottore - the "selfish" version - had little respect for the other Segments and was willing to sacrifice them when Nahida bargained with him, but that doesn't indicate hatred, just apathy.

I think he'd be willing to create more segments, if he thought they'd prove useful to him.

BananaBrodie2026-01-30 21:08

I thought he was just putting away the Trilune in certain scenes, this makes more sense. It also explains the glitching at the very end. We might see him return at the very end of Song of the Welkin Moon or during Snezhnaya

Jaynat_SF2026-01-30 21:53

Finally, a "Dottore died, but Dottore survived" theory that I can get behind, rather than a pile of cope along the lines of "he's the smartest character we know so surely he anticipated every single event that happened, prepared 50 contingency plans, and hid 3 backup segments in every nation he visited just in case."

AnthonyMM972026-01-30 23:57

I noticed it missing but I couldn't think of a reason why.

Cobalt_Heroes252026-01-31 00:32

100% tracks for Dottore

AmberleafOfLeafClan2026-01-31 02:31

Hmmm interesting

AksysCore2026-01-31 03:28

The experiment... has begun.

Rain-Maker332026-01-31 07:10

As with quite a lot of theories in this game, it feels like this is picking at straws. Sturgeon's law and all that.

As someone else mentioned, the doylist reason might be to not make a scene visually cluttered. And the watsonian reason might be that he just put it away, like minimizing a tab, whenever he wanted to.

Just saying, even Capitano fans didn't have this much copium.

StarJolion2026-01-31 07:41

Well Capitano didn't have segments nor have his character center around overcoming the limits of cognition. The visual deception stuff is not new or copium, it was already around in Sumeru.

easterneas2026-01-31 08:11

Now I wonder, does anyone noticed the glitch happening after Bina took the Iridescent Moon marrow to summon back the others during the cutscene? Does it do anything related to what happened here as well?

StarJolion2026-01-31 08:37

Not here but the act 6 ending cutscene. In that one he loses control when he no longer has 3 moons.

Coupled with that misty cloud effect during Columbina's family line, I think we were stuck in a dream from that point on.

WolfySpice2026-01-31 09:31

I'm positive that at some points in Nod Krai he didn't have that low bass growl in his voice.

Rewatch Sumeru: the Dottore who leaves on the boat has a subtly different voice which isn't as heavy. The Dottore who stays at the end has that bass growl again.

DottoresPet2026-01-31 09:49

Bass growl is a... unique way to describe it. Vocal fry would be a better word. "Growl" just makes me think of metal music