Unnecessary aversion to the more niche characters?

Quick explanation of what I mean in the title - I feel like many players act weird when someone tries to flex their numbers achieved with less popular characters.
Not so long ago I saw a few showcases(TikTok, X etc.) of chars like Yoimiya, Navia, Ganyu, Xiao and so on. Most of the comments consisted of stuff like "that's only possible because of supports", "wheelchair build" etc.
Yet I don't see such comments when it's Mavuika premium, Skirk premium, Nefer premium etc.
Why?

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HuTaosTwinTails2026-01-31 20:52

Because meta slaves are convinced that playing the newest, meta characters is the only way to play.

Despite the fact that this has caused massive powercreep and damaged the game overall.

JDOrka1232026-01-31 20:56

Yeah, with the powercreep increasing I was sure people would applaud when someone manages to clear with older characters instead of calling them out for using Furina Columbina Ineffa or Xilonen in their teams

RaspberryLanky79052026-01-31 21:00

Don't complain about tik tok on reddit. We lean the other way here, "if you want to use your old favorite you better wish for the new supports." It's the same sentiment, but framed positively. We have different problems.

RunImmediate60622026-01-31 21:13

"Support Impact" as some say

toucanlost2026-01-31 22:21

I wish. I saw on reddit for a sister game of genshin someone who mains a weak character lament about a functionality that was removed that helps that character. The majority of the comments were criticizing the redditor for playing a weak character, instead of focusing on the removal of the function.

Ne7herstorm2026-01-31 21:05

Because if you remove Lauma from the Nefer team she still would be stronger than any older damage dealer (not by much tho), and if you remove premium supports from older damage dealers they will hit like a wet noodle compared to nowadays characters.

And "wheelchair" means that the team without said "old damage dealer" would perform the same if not better due to the ability to add another support for wheelchair core characters who are strong on their own.

It's all because we have a strong powercreep and some players are unable to accept that not everyone wants to follow meta. It is what it is.

LiDragonLo2026-02-01 04:29

She'd be fontaine lvl iirc, maybe a bit lower

AnalWithAcheron2026-01-31 21:06

The difference is that the DPS is pulling their weight i.e. contributing the majority of the team damage, unlike in the wheelchair teams

WhooooCares2026-01-31 21:42

Insecurity and an inferiority complex for a lot people like that. Some people get upset when they see my Yoimiya doing more damage than their Mavuika. They're mad because a character that's supposed to suck is doing more damage than the meta-DPS they pulled to make themselves think they're good at the game.

If you own a Bugatti and a Civic whoops your ass, you might feel a way.

Entire-Magazine-42832026-01-31 22:15

I feel this. xd I remember a little while ago, I made comment here saying that I still use my Raiden (C2R1) with her National and Overload teams and she is still doing more than fine. I literally had people accusing me of lying and when I showed proof, they all dismissed it like: "Oh, I'm sure you have amazing artefacts!" (I don't!) or "How often did you have to reset for that?!" (only a few times).

I would rather play the companions I enjoy and fail, then pull for a meta unit just to get one or two pulls extra.

omegavolt92026-01-31 22:39

Those meta units will suffer the same fate eventually

nereoteg2026-01-31 21:44

the term wheelchair has done irreparable damage to the community lol. Even if your main dps/on-fielder is doing the highest total damage as evidenced in the stygian metric, they are still considered wheelchaired if they cannot function as a standalone meta dps.

omegavolt92026-01-31 22:36

Thing is pretty much no character does good damage alone, they almost always at least need someone else to set up reactions for them

SkyTheLoner2026-01-31 23:28

Yeah.

And if nothing else, there's a difference between an Aloy with Shenhe, Furina, Escoffier team and, idk, melt-plunge Kaveh with Bennett, Citlali, Xianyun team.

Ke5_Jun2026-02-01 00:25

The problem is that players here are skipping the step in between “Wheelchaired” and “Hypercarry”. That in between step is the classic “main dps”.

Wheelchaired means that your on fielder is doing less damage than each the off field DPSes **individually**. The only way to avoid being called wheelchaired is if you are a driver/enabler support, and doing something on field that other characters can’t do. For example, yes Raiden does “wheelchaired tier dmg”, but she restores the team’s energy and buffs their burst dmg while also doing decent personal dmg; she is still doing useful stuff even if her dmg is low. She certainly cannot be called the main DPS, but she is still a useful team member. Sucrose is also not being wheelchaired because she drives with VV swirl and buffs EM.

A main DPS is a character who does the most dmg on the team **individually**. This means that yes, a main DPS does NOT have to do over 50% of the team’s dmg, nor does it mean that the main DPS can’t be buffed by supports to do such dmg. This is most egregious when people call Flins a “wheelchair” (he is most certainly NOT being wheelchaired), just because he is reliant on Ineffa and he does less than 50% of the team’s dmg (he does slightly more than Ineffa at around 45%). He is still doing more dmg than Ineffa and Columbina (separately, not combined) and therefore, he is the main DPS.

A hypercarry is a **subset** of main DPS, who does more than 50% of the dmg on the team, again regardless of whether they need supports to do said dmg. Nefer is heavily reliant on Lauma for her dmg, BUT Lauma’s personal dmg is almost none compared to Nefer, who is doing well over 50% of the team’s dmg (it’s something like 70% or more). Mavuika is also a hypercarry.

RubApprehensive25122026-02-01 02:12

The thing is that "Wheelchair" is a core of a team not a team itself. A functional team has everyone in the team contributing to the total of the team damage

Like how mono teams core is all 1 element, hyperbloom core being dendro hydro and electro, hypercarry core being 1 dps with 3 supports etc, etc.

Wheelchair is when 2 broken supports form together to make a lot of damage. Ex: columbina:ineffa or mavuika:citlali. But, they are not the team. They are just a core.

avarageusername2026-01-31 22:00

People who say that dont understand the game, you have 4 slots on a team, obviusly youre gonna use supports that amplify your damage.

Although the aversion (well, not really aversion just people leaning towards meta characters) is there because of the oportunity cost. You only get so many pulls. If you get ganyu you cant get skirk and clear stuff with ease and feel strong. Its just the nature of gacha games.

But i guess i get it about wheelchair tho, if you put a character that does almost no damage in a wheelchair team and say "look, X character clears just fine" when they didnt even contribute much and if you used another character instead the damage would be far better thats kind of dishonest. But as long as you're honest about it its fine.

Seroves2026-01-31 22:02

Word of advice, most of tiktokers that make those assumptions are children so dont even bother and take their opinion seriously. About supports and niche characters is even more hilarious, because like you said even the most op characters need those support characters.

omegavolt92026-01-31 22:40

Some children can still make good points and have good ideas (not these ones though)

Seroves2026-02-01 01:08

Don't disagree with that but you know how tiktok kids are .

Bluetooth_Speaker12026-01-31 22:51

"It just works because of supports >:((" no.. really?? I thought all characters could hold their own no matter what?? Wtf?? /s

nomotyed2026-02-01 02:09

>Yet I don't see such comments when it's Mavuika premium, Skirk premium, Nefer premium etc. Why?

To answer that :

Mav/Skirk/Nefer are not wheelchaired in their BiS teams. They're hypercarries.

Yes they have good supports. But all things being equal, their performance with those supports are better than many dps using the same supports.

Also among the premium teams, Mav is more flexible compared to Flins/Nefer/Skirk since her next best team without a specific 5\* isn't >20% worse.