Damn hsr got cooked this month? Was it due to delay?
DanThePaladin2026-02-01 15:26
A someone who plays HSR.
I think it's just getting to the point where its boring/stale
I know we are in between planets/main story. But there really isn't an incentive to log in, and no one is pulling because 4.x patches are coming up, and will most likely overpower everything else
OriginCycle2026-02-01 15:34
No, it’s just because of the delay. There’s nothing to do, and there aren’t any new characters to pull for, so there’s less revenue.
DanThePaladin2026-02-01 15:36
Which is exactly what I said, without mentioning the delay.
yorozoyas2026-02-01 15:41
Personally, the delay was the final nail in the coffin for me quitting, I've been unhappy with the quality of the game post Phainon patch, so, finally uninstalled. For how much money they print, it truly does not feel like any effort it put into how the story is presented in the game.
DanThePaladin2026-02-01 15:47
I havent been online at all in 3.8, and honestly, I am not sure if I will jump on 4.0.
Right now, I am not missing it, and the 4.x character previews they did really didn't make me excited either.
pxndavic2026-02-01 15:50
I’m sorry that the delay of all things, the one thing devs couldn’t control?
Vitrio2026-02-01 15:56
Probably because they're not optimistic things will improve if devs have to make last minute changes
yorozoyas2026-02-01 15:59
I was unsatisfied with many things for quite some time. The delay and dead patch WAS THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN, and lead me to realise how much I had not been enjoying the game and just logging in and trying to get through my dailies asap.
KukiBreeze2026-02-01 15:52
Feeling the same way. I am holding out in hopes they step up the storytelling in the next planet but if it's needlessly bloated and 80% of the time having characters standing still yapping with no attempt to make it engaging, i will be uninstalling.
garythegyarados2026-02-01 16:05
I dropped the game after Castorice came out, feeling like the powercreep was getting out of hand and the gameplay and story was suffering. Looks like I made the right decision if nothing seems to have changed… it’s sad because I was otherwise pretty invested in the world
rloco2026-02-01 16:17
Actually, it was less than GI, but HSR sells more on mobile than on PC and consoles, which is why it appears higher on this list. However, GI easily sold double or more than what was shown on the list.
Various-Plenty-54382026-02-01 16:18
It was a build up. The delay was the cherry on top of all the issues the game has and it just boiled over now.
The devs have lost the trust of the HSR playerbase and it is deserved.
Cloudbyte_Pony2026-02-01 16:08
I quit HSR around 3.2, it stopped being fun, the Amphoreus story was already dragging even then, and the power creep is absolutely brutal.
Even Ruri Gouko, a YouTuber that did 4-star only runs of the endgame modes couldn't keep doing them, the old units simply couldn't compete anymore, even when he had absolute mastery of the timings, mechanics buffs and debuffs.
It became simply a numbers game, the story was slow and stale, and they progressively started having less and less events, and made the few one they ran way too short.
I loved the Chimera event, but unlike Belobog's museum or the Alley one, it was criminally short.
The fact that they added Remembrance as a new path didn't help. It can do everything the other paths can, but with summons. That killed the path system identity.
I'll stay on Genshin and Zenless for the time being, I hope they don't follow HSR self-destructive path, especially Zenless which is still relatively new.
vglisten2026-02-01 16:14
Genshin could never!!!
kuraokami892026-02-01 16:26
That's why I still doing survey for Genshin impact, I hope their listen. I want less Powercreep or make it slightly slower.
BotanicalEmergency2026-02-01 16:42
Loved Belobog museum! Big fan of management games.
I also really liked that guinaifen huohuo influencer one. They need more big events like those.
HuTaosTwinTails2026-02-01 15:30
Delay, no events or new content, 4.x coming out so they'll just powercreep everything by the next two patches anyways, HSR is in a bad state.
NoOrganization60252026-02-01 15:42
I remember the time when genshin can just do reruns of non meta characters (infamous klee/eula banner) and they could still pull off big numbers lol times have changed.
Geraltpoonslayer2026-02-01 15:56
Yeah genshin is heading in the same situation with powercreep. And I'm someone who thinks powercreep js healthy for live service pve games. However, since stygian, it has amplified so hard. At this point I'd not be suprised if snezhnaya BIS teams reach 200k dps.
adcsuc2026-02-01 15:58
>And I'm someone who thinks powercreep js healthy for live service pve games.
Why would you think its healthy
SandyArca2026-02-01 16:02
Probably “healthy” for the game in terms of incentives and revenue, not necessarily talking about “healthy” for players
Geraltpoonslayer2026-02-01 16:12
Because without a natural dose of powercreep live service games almost inevitably will lose relevancy.
Pve games of a live service nature are confined within time, money, and technology. Regardless of how talented or creative a dev would be, those restrictions will lead to a situation where eventually they can't create something new that will cause excitement or anticipation in the playerbase. This is especially true in genshin, where the gameplay is incredibly non dynamic. Essentially, all off fielders are an EQ bot, and many on fielders tend to be variations of a NA or CA spammer. If you compare it, to say wuthering waves or where winds meet, which allows for more expression in terms of gameplay.
In other words, they could only create so many Pyro dps within the same power level that would be different enough in terms of their kit before players get bored. As a result, having a small dose of powercreep to further incentives the community to want them is needed for the long-term health of the game. And genshin had powercreep from 1.0 every live service pve game, whether it be looters, mmos, gachas hell, even minecraft, which adds new stuff like auto chest sorters which increase productivity essentially.
The powercreep since stygian, however, has massively amplified. 110k at the start of natlan was considered absolutely top tier. Now all 3 nord krai dps in their best teams hover around 150k dps. That is a massive escalation and is not healthy.
NoOrganization60252026-02-01 16:01
the case here isn't powercreep, if anything, powercreep helps them sell characters. it's mostly because of gacha saturation
Izanagi322026-02-01 16:18
Stygian has and always will be for whales who want to strut their stuff. You lose barely anything as a f2p player for only attempting up to Menacing/Hard
Electrical-Call-61602026-02-01 16:00
Man there's so many non-meta characters I want back... Yae, Xianyun, and Siegewinne specifically...
NoOrganization60252026-02-01 16:02
I'm sure they'll be in chronicled banners now instead of their own standalone reruns lol
kuraokami892026-02-01 16:20
I still waiting for Yae Miko Inazuma chronicles
karillith2026-02-01 16:22
> Yunjin
Did you mean Chiori?
Eenkin2026-02-01 17:21
Maybe they want c6 Yun Jin. * shrugs *
cartercr2026-02-01 17:25
Low key love me some Yunjin. Her animations are so pretty!
MorganTaoVT2026-02-01 16:01
From what I have experienced with HSR, the power creep there feels very different compared to Genshin.
In Genshin, you are still quite alright running 1.0 characters since several new mechanics re-enabled them or at least kept them average.
In HSR, old characters just didn't compare at all. I like HSR, but new content just feels very very hard trying it with old characters or characters that have been rather... unique in the first place.
TunaTunaLeeks2026-02-01 16:18
I used to occasionally top up to get eidolons in HSR but seeing several majorly hyped characters I got to E2 now play worse than new E0 characters, I don’t bother beyond just the supply pass and battle pass. What’s the point if the handful of E0 characters I get to form a cohesive team in the new version far outcompetes an E2 from half a year ago?
Offduty_shill2026-02-01 17:07
I had e2 firefly and Acheron and when the Herta, Castorice came out and smoked them at C0 I stopped paying for anything in hsr cause yeah like you said what's the point?
that then got me to accidentally quit because I stopped feeling pressure to login to collect welkin every day until I just stopped logging in at all
SectorApprehensive582026-02-02 01:42
I did supply pass for about 6 months after Topaz, and I think it was Acheron and her infamous LC that finally lifted the wool from my eyes and stopped my sub. Feixiao and her 'fua' with no trigger conditions to play and strategize around with was another bummer. It just felt like design got lazier and lazier except in ways they can screw you out of a working LC
kuraokami892026-02-01 16:19
That's why powercreep is bad. Make sell it's either really bad
Charming_Case_72082026-02-01 17:05
Agreed. It's short term gain for long term pain.
Hsr management are reaping what they sowed. Hopefully genshin team are taking notes to avoid that themselves now. Would be the best for everyone.
Express-Bag-39352026-02-01 16:48
In Genshin, we are capable of using cheese strats. The Zhongli x geo Traveler cock and ball strat is meta in CN to have made them into Exalted One's in Stygian.
Plus Jean really showing the ropes with all the fun fall damage cheese she can pull off.
To this day, Bennett is very meta. Several 4 stars have seen more use than the lifespan of 5 stars.
GlitterDoomsday2026-02-01 16:51
Only reason I completed that damn capibara achievements was because of Jean 😂
Charming_Case_72082026-02-01 16:59
Genshin is going the way of hsr of powercreep. But when I played hsr last year its was worse than current genshin, by the time I finished building my team and their relics (to high standard) they've already been powercrept.
If powercreep is the reason for hsr fall I can see genshin calming down on theirs to keep players happy.
saviourQQ2026-02-01 17:52
Stygian boss reruns have the same HP meanwhile in HSR the same boss from a few months ago had double+ its hp which makes me really angry.
Also there’s like 2 or 3 usable 4 stars and so many characters have no good F2P weapons. The past year was in the Remembrance planet and they did some kind of wierd pivot so Remembrance is now mostly HP scaling when it was another stat focused on release and released no Hp remembrance free weapons so the difference between a BP or 5* and your best F2P option is like 30%+.
It is patch 3.8 and The latest Abyss like thing my Herta from 3.0 C0R0 team takes 8-9 cycles and my Evernight C0R1 from 3.6 takes 2-3 cycles. Like wtf is this these are two DPS from the same year and Hertas team does 1/3rd the damage while also being ATK scaling so much easier to die with. Meanwhile Herta has a F2P weapon that is 15 or 20% worse not 40% worse. Ugh.
nicoleeemusic982026-02-01 18:44
Forget E0S1 I feel like I'm getting punished even in PF for not pulling E1 Tribbie :/ starting to feel punished for not pulling E2 Herta too
Meanwhile my E0S1 Evernight team is smoking PF with 40k 🙃
nanotech4052026-02-01 16:03
But even then, Genshin still has the most profitable rerun banners in mainstream gacha.
Literally the most recent Arle/Zhongli rerun still managed to pull over 20m+ last September solo. Obviously nowhere as big as their heyday, buy still.
BOOTYHOLE-DESTROYER22026-02-01 16:14
Zhonglis the goat tho, so not surprising
And Arlecchino's alright too ig
kuraokami892026-02-01 16:20
Zhongli no buff still kicking in rerun
masternieva6662026-02-01 17:47
Well some of the genshin players are casual collectors and since zhongli is a archon they pull for him to add in their collections. I just wish madam ping,moon carver and mountain shaper will be playable do we can complete the adepti collection.
Clean-Willingness5602026-02-01 18:12
Zhongli will never not be usable, shred, the shield, petrification, dmg and reaction from geo constructs. Man is solid like a rock.
Valuable-Outcome-6512026-02-01 18:57
Outside of end game everyone is usable though.
Physical-Command21302026-02-01 19:13
I MEAN as when I was lower Ar player who didn't got to dodge and learn the moves of big bosses I envied of not having zhongli.
pancakedelasea2026-02-02 01:09
The funniest thing is Zhongli is arguably meta for endgame rn with all the Stygian collision dmg mechanics lmfao. It's obv not hoyo's intention for him to be meta from this (along with Jean) but it's funny how he ended up in the Exalted cast on at least one server and I'm pretty sure some speedruns have used that tech too.
Appropriate_Gate11292026-02-01 16:48
Fanbase is big. Characters also have place in different teams, have screentime and continue to expand their lore.
theaventh2026-02-01 17:53
Two push characters, outdated, but still push characters that most casual players will find some utility on the regular, they're also part of the collectibles ("archon team" "harbinger team"). Even if you don't build them or use them in endgame, there's still reasons to want them, even if they're as basic as a namecard, photography or putting them in the teapot for their respective altar. Does HSR have anything secondary like that?
nicoleeemusic982026-02-01 18:33
Nope, it's why vertical investment is also prized more there because there's almost nothing you can do casually with your charas except run around and people rather pull to upgrade their old teams than get burned by new archetypes. Especially if the main dps you pull isn't a push unit the difference in favouritism is staggering (eg Aglaea and Mydei)
It's also getting harder and harder to justify pulling for old dpses because of how bad powercreep has gotten, and I say this as someone who was still gonna pull on banners of 1.x dpses last year
irllyshouldsleep2026-02-01 19:37
Hsr does not rlly promote fun teambuilding, esp bc there is no open world to mess around in. Instead hsr has powercreep to the point where the are ppl who get impressed when seeing MoC clears with just one 4* or 1.0 DPS in them (mind u they are still in 3.8, I rlly hope those characters don't become straight up unplayable by the time hsr is in 6.3...). Meanwhile in Genshin those clears are pretty normal. I don't rlly think "wow nice job" when I scroll past an abyss clear with Venti/Durin/Benny/Faruzan (or whatever DPS Venti's BiS team is idk) on one side.
rloco2026-02-01 16:12
GI is now played more on consoles and PCs, which has happened in recent years mainly for convenience. The same is true for ZZZ, although its mobile/PC and console percentage is still higher, which is why it never shows big numbers even though it is actually a success. HSR is played on mobile, which is why it has always been at the top, but the lack of events and things to do is noticeable.
Basically, you have to multiply by X2 or X3 to get a rough idea of the actual profit, and on Android, since they don't take it into account either, the same page says to multiply by 1.75, I think that was the profit.
If GI is dead, the figures say otherwise.
Wallbalertados2026-02-01 22:32
Can confirm i used to play on mobile but switched to pc last year everyone in my friend group also got a console or pc
yuzero12026-02-01 16:16
Back in the days where generalist C6s are still a thing (Yelan etc) + less restrictive team building, and no SO and DPS meters. Pure vibes and exploration.
Good times.
Note: I'm not saying I'm against endgame content.
Then_Following_64252026-02-01 15:58
Majority of the comments on the drip marketing of Yao Guang, Sponkler and a post asking how the players felt about Elation were just "Rememberance 2.0"
ZZZ's introduction of a new path was so much better than HSR it's not even funny atp
SittingDuck3942026-02-01 16:15
I miss HSR 1.X 😔 The events were amazing - you could tell *actual effort* went into the main event rather than the slop we’ve been getting nowadays -, and best of all, powercreep wasn’t yet a thing. I dolphined for 2 and a bit years (bought monthly pass, battlepass, and all top-ups) but stopped spending *completely* a few months ago - now I’m thinking it’s probably time to quit altogether … I just don’t find it enjoyable anymore. Meanwhile I’ve been playing genshin religiously every day for 5 years and it still has my heart. It’s not perfect, but it does a lot right.
FlameDragoon9332026-02-01 16:48
I miss being able to use Qingque to full star MoC.
natu1292026-02-01 17:14
Strongly agree with this.
There were up and down with genshin, there're things to be improved, but it's never fell so bad that I want to quit. It has its charm making me want to see it through.
On the contrary for hsr, the past year was really bad. I will give the 4.0 one last chance, if things don't get improved, I think I'll also quit
JaylisJayP2026-02-01 21:18
There's no chance it improves with Elation.
natu1292026-02-02 01:39
Well, the story might be improved at least. Powercreep is beyond saving
AmberAglia2026-02-01 17:51
I quit hsr in december 😭 i used to top up for characters i liked (for e0s1) but then slowly my spending for the game just stopped and 1 and half years into the game i became low spender and then by 2nd anni i was just f2p. It just doesnt feel worth to invest so much money and time into a team only to have them powercrept in a few patches. And the lack of quality events finally got to me so i quit around dahlias release.
BraydenTheNoob2026-02-01 19:40
For me the breaking point is when you can't even clear the story content with a 2.x premium team
TrumpLovesThemKids2026-02-01 17:53
HSR 1.X was the peak of the game except the first couple patches Luofu story (the side stories were amazing though). I miss the episodic space comedy feel of it. Penacony was alright but made zero sense after the fact and was paced kinda poorly. Wargames was alright. Amphoreus was fucking insanely bloated though and put me to sleep. Awful writing. Not even funny most of the time.
Drakengard2026-02-01 18:21
Putting down HSR halfway through the 3.X patch was the best call I made. HSR was the easiest game to just login and do things...but it was a job. There wasn't really any joy to be had. The new story wasn't well told, the gameplay (most of all) was just getting worse, investing in characters and their best supports was pointless due to powercreep. End game was just account checks for the most part unless you got crazy about artifact farming, speed tuning, and DDD antics to max things.
Everything that HSR did that felt fresh when it came out had been just lost and it's a shame. I love the Astral Express crew but those guys alone can't save everything else.
AzureDrag0n12026-02-02 00:14
The only thing keeping me playing HSR is how easy it is to maintain. You can jump in. Play for 3 minutes and jump out. It is also the most casual phone game as playing action games on a phone is not a great experience. I would never play ZZZ, Wuwa, or Genshin on a phone. HSR yes. In every other aspect, it is a worse game.
esztersunday2026-02-01 19:41
Honkai Star Rail was my favorite game, but it was ruined. The devs wanted to find out how much money they can make with minimal effort.
I am curious about next month.
ArchRanger2026-02-01 21:51
This is me as well.
Was doing BP, monthly, and the annual double top up but have dropped everything but the monthly since the middle of 3.x.
The constant double 5-star releases with no 4-stars felt overwhelming (especially compared to Genshin’s release rate and rarity rates) and now they are pushing out nearly as many SPs as they are new characters so we are just pulling for the same characters we already have, the the latter getting power crept out.
Stack this with events being low effort and the story being unnecessarily wordy like HI3 and my interest in the game is pretty much gone.
Alternative_Fruit2832026-02-01 16:17
Dryest filler patch ever, I didn't even want to do the new main quest
LunarLoom212026-02-01 20:42
Yup, I uninstalled HSR for a while now. Only got back a week ago to prep a little for 4.0.
markcan_killua2026-02-01 15:39
I don’t think i’ve ever seen one of hoyos big 3 ever go that low. no wonder they did that random fortnite collab lol
__breadstick__2026-02-01 15:43
Not even Genshin went that low. You'd think maybe with Mizuki but even she did well
Legendary-Fleshbeast2026-02-01 15:56
I don't think that's a very good comparison.
Mizuki is still a new character that some people wanted. We only have reruns right now and we're right before 4.0.
IS_Mythix2026-02-01 15:59
Tbf zhongli and arle rerun got 20mil as well recently
__breadstick__2026-02-01 16:00
Genshin still did $31m in July 2023, which was 3.8. There were no new characters released in that update. I would've thought that'd be crazy low but yeah even that did well
Busy_Avocado64912026-02-01 15:46
Some of ZZZ banners were below 10M.
Then_Following_64252026-02-01 15:59
ZZZ consistently goes that low. But then again it's already not meeting performace expectations, hence why the generosity, and I heared sensor tower data is mobile device only which ZZZ is not really meant for, so who knows.
ILuvHuTaoAndNagatoro2026-02-01 16:24
This is all based on mobile revenue isn't it?
I wouldn't be surprised seeing ZZZ so low in that scenario, it's a very mobile unfriendly game.
I'd bet it's doing really good numbers if you're looking at all platforms.
richelieu_212026-02-01 15:42
Simply the only two banners released are fugue + lingsha, PGs that are not popular and are on their second rerun, I don't understand why people don't consider these things (I'm not referring to you obviously)
Dvalin092026-02-01 15:57
>I don't understand why people don't consider these things (I'm not referring to you obviously)
True; most of them want just put on evidence some event (CN vs JP) and/or protect their game.
But in the gachagames sub a lot of ppl already said it.
BluHor1zon2026-02-01 16:24
I think it's just a reddit thing, the reddit HSR community is full of ppl who have a chance to parrot their own agenda/opinion on why game is doing bad they'll take that shot.
tuataraaa2026-02-01 15:43
does anyone remember revenue during Ayaka's eternal banner?
did it get as low?
KaedeP_222026-02-01 16:08
It was on May 2022, And no, still hovers around $67 Million. Genshin used to break $100 Million easily due to practically 0 competition.
And to think how much worse of a game it was on a technical and storytelling level compared to Nod Krai now..... I'm glad all the competition has been chipping away at their revenue because the incentive to improve is much stronger now it seems
czareson_csn2026-02-01 18:49
well, back then there wasn't really any powercreep
everyIittlething2026-02-01 16:13
can’t compare. for one, revenue estimation calcs are highly likely to be very different during that time. second, it was covid era. third, there wasn’t much big competition.
Busy_Avocado64912026-02-01 15:48
Delays and peeps saving for the next version.
Stealthless2026-02-01 15:48
Yep, Honkai: Dry Rail
Geraltpoonslayer2026-02-01 15:54
Hsr situation is genuinely dire.
Dvalin092026-02-01 15:59
- 2 reruns for an archetype that lost player's trust (Waifu/female don't guarantee money, unlike the meta, this is my personal take since ever)
- 2 rerun for characters already rerunned numerous times last year
And obviously no new characters for the delay.
Immediate_Lychee_3722026-02-01 16:02
The 5 stars this patch is INCREDIBLY niche, really small amount of events, and 4.0 is around the corner ish (well it was delayed)
huehuehuehuehuuuu2026-02-01 16:07
I dropped it. The last region didn’t capture me. The plot was meh. And I needed the time to play where winds meet.
Plus back to regular good old Arknights.
Various-Plenty-54382026-02-01 16:15
You think powercreep in genshin is bad just try and play HSR.
No point whaling in that game because dps get powercrept every 2 or 3 patches. At least Mavuika was top dog for over a year. And she still is top 2 if you know her combos.
Consider this. Neuvilette and Dan Heng IL released around the same time. Neuvilette is still a decently meta character, meanwhile DHIL is completely washed.
BluHor1zon2026-02-01 16:18
Tbf they have delayed the new 4.0 content by 2 weeks so all potential estimated numbers will be down as ppl save for the upcoming new content.
Ppl here on reddit will throw all their own agendas and personal reasons to exaggerate why it is bad but trust me it is far from falling off as they claimed.
If anything wait for the 4.0 update first.
Lagnabbit2026-02-01 18:13
I think compared to Genshin which has a whole-ass open world to explore, and ZZZ which has tons of modes as well as handing out tons of free shit this month, HSR skews the strongest of all HYV games as the "just here for the story" game, and well, this month had no real story. Even the previous month's main offering was just a rather tepidly-received retcon/bonus to what was by far the worst story planet in the game, Penacony, so January had absolutely fucking nothing to offer. It's impressive to me that the game even makes this much when it is such a "dead" time between major patches.
CanWe_SaveHex2026-02-01 19:09
They powercreep everything, what’s the point on spending on that game anymore?
Nagisar1602026-02-02 00:51
I'm very lost but I think it's safe to say i'm not the only one who doesn't see the point in paying when they'll powercreep(or have already) whatever i'll pull in just 3 months, i stopped doing endgame but still had to farm a lot if i wanted to clear story mode in Acheron's 1st rerun.
While the more charas, even if they're old, is rewarded in Genshin, i can build friendship, build for Abyss/Theatre, build whack units like healer-shielder Yanfei and still be able to complete endgame and story. Only thing i've seen people mad about is waiting 2 years fir an Albedo rerun but i think they are handling it better than HSR, he was never meta, i played with him and Ningguang since he came out, now he got a buff so he's still usable.
And i think we shouldn't have more than 2 banners at the same time, it's the problem HSR has, you wanna pull the new dps but their supports are also on the banner so you gotta top up or save for a year to get the whole team.
Entire-Magazine-42832026-02-01 15:34
Binallion dollars...and that's just the mobile revenue!
jpc10092026-02-01 16:26
Moon goddess made a columbillion dollars just as she deserves
ComposedOfStardust2026-02-01 16:31
And not including Zibai. The patch is still young. Go horsie go!
xxvi32362026-02-01 15:35
Bina haters in absolute shambles rn
poopyretard692026-02-01 15:39
Nah, we haters knew she'd make hella money, no surprise there.
xxvi32362026-02-01 15:41
The ones on TikTok kept posting about how her banner sales would be extremely bad.
poopyretard692026-02-01 15:44
That's tiktok ragebait, dude. Not real coherent thoughts.
TYRDurden2026-02-01 15:46
I dont know why you guys keep using the sales argument. Even Mavuika haters knew her banner would make bank. This is the spotlight character of the region of one of the biggest games in the world, it is guranteed to sell well. Doing well in sales doesn't absolve you from criticism.
xxvi32362026-02-01 15:47
Literally
Original-Shallot58422026-02-01 15:57
Because those like you who like to shit on others people characters, are talking from an "objective" point and telling people that the character is trash.
Well, seems like the majority does not approve your opinion.
Who is right and who is wrong?
parthmestry2026-02-01 16:00
It does absolve you from the "no one likes her" "the community hates her" troupe that people kept regurgitating during Mavuika's release. Idk about Columbina tho i didn't see a lot of hate in the first place.
ComposedOfStardust2026-02-01 16:43
Somehow people are still regurgitating "no one likes her" for Mavuika these days
Not surprising tbh considering western genshin audience's hate boner for Natlan
Bout_to_shower2026-02-01 16:05
We still have people downplaying Mavuika’s banner every now and then lol, let’s not kid ourselves. And sales may not absolve a character of criticism but it does prove that the community generally liked them despite how a certain vocal minority feels.
mlodydziad4202026-02-01 16:25
Yeah, meta sells a lot.
MapoTofuMan2026-02-01 15:50
All 12 of them
Wurzelrenner2026-02-01 16:01
yes, why would people hate her? She has nothing polarizing like Mavuika or Furina before her.
Choncc-is-da-best2026-02-01 15:37
Y'all say it's thanks to Columbina's debut. I say it's the fact we can beat Dottore's ass 🦅
Real-Contest49142026-02-01 15:39
You don't have to pay to beat his arse. They gave us the chance to do it for free.
Choncc-is-da-best2026-02-01 15:40
They all pulled Columbina to revenge on his ass with Collei 😈
Real-Contest49142026-02-01 15:41
Fair
ilovegame692026-02-01 15:39
HSR falling so far. Well, 3.8 is such an empty patch
DevolayS2026-02-01 15:43
It aligns with my personal feelings
HSR is a hit or miss, I had some fun with it, but it's increasingly annoying and boring. I took another break from it 2 weeks ago. Actually, I dropped all my gachas for now, except Genshin. I don't like the direction ZZZ took, and I'm not a fan of cheap nostalgia tricks in HI3rd. It really looks like only the Genshin team puts actual thought and effort into their work.
DepressedAndAwake2026-02-01 16:04
ZZZ rev was across 2 months, with the bulk in December. It actually did quite well as a result
Dvalin092026-02-01 16:08
>the direction ZZZ took
What?
Gray_Tower2026-02-01 16:17
What are you on about lmao
- HSR was severely affected due to the whole China/Japan conflict and had to extend this patch's duration as a result, which means this chart is only counting reruns
- ZZZ had their most successful patch of all time with Ye Shunguang, Zhao and the Alice/Astra/Sanby discounted banner
This has less to do with "putting in the work", it's more just the current banners of each game
Hatarakumaou2026-02-01 16:27
Just let them have their 5 minutes of fun, it’s not every day relations between 2 countries blowing up effect a game this much.
Once HSR make more than Genshin when 4.0 launch we’ll be back to the “HSR only make so much money because powercreep” comments.
sil3ntthunder2026-02-01 16:38
Well its personal taste. I find HSR pretty fun. Even more than Genshin. We shouldnt consider revenue charts for good or bad. Hsr is on extended banner bc of political issues and its right before 4.0. On top the rerun banner were fugue, Lingsha who are pretty niche for break team. I think the revenue make sense here.
Grouchy_Gap452026-02-01 15:44
So, the people downplaying natlan revenues will finally shut up or do they need more copium? cause this is not even a contest, mav did better
Edit: Sorry for those in the comments I dared to offense by saying that. But once again my intention wasnt to trash any characters, columbina is great character just as mavuika is for those who liked each. I am such a fan of ineffa I am legit pissed I missed my 50/50 on her, sandbina agenda always make me smile, and Nefer/jahoda are my favorite NK characters... My aim was simply the natlan hate agenda, especially the agenda targeting revenue, and trashtalking natlan by praising NK on that matter
TYRDurden2026-02-01 15:47
and mav banner was on new years day with much higher competition and still outsold its not even close. tho dont credit it all to mav. citlali is extremely popular too and carried her weight in sales.
Grouchy_Gap452026-02-01 15:54
That's what I am saying. Both mav and bina ran with their BIS and ineffa being skipped on release dur to NK hype, gained tremendous value thanks to bina, so she count as a new character. The banner were mostly exactly the same
Ok_Can_64242026-02-01 15:50
Mavuika ran with Citlali tho. High value supports for all melt, hydro dps
The-Iraqi-Guy2026-02-01 16:02
While Citlali is my favourite in Natlan, Ineffa shouldn't be underestimated.
Many people including myself regretted skipping her initial release, both because of her performance and because her character got much more lovable.
Uruvi2026-02-01 16:02
I mean ineffa's really meta right now lol
mlodydziad4202026-02-01 16:27
Its Innefas rerun, not release. Imagine if Innefa and Columbina released together.
everyIittlething2026-02-01 16:29
and she has been meta since her release months ago. point is, ineffa’s a rerun, not a new banner, unlike citlali’s.
Dvalin092026-02-01 16:09
Ineffbina amd the weapon banner isn't so far as value
Vast_Yoghurt14132026-02-01 15:51
imagine haveing 2 new character banner in the first half of the patch 🥀🥀🥀
Grouchy_Gap452026-02-01 15:53
You realise columbina also ran with her BIS ineffa that everyone skipped due to NK hype and gained tremendous value thanks to NK meta, it's the same thing
aerie_zephyr2026-02-01 15:59
To add onto you, besides the new wheelchair comp for most teams, there’s miliastra releases and a week of xilonen/varesa as well, since some ppl are bringing up arle/clorinde and chronicle banner.
Fun-Ad76132026-02-01 15:52
Multiplier for señor tower was different back then and Mav ran with Citlali and also Week of Clordine/Alre rerun and chronicle wish
Grouchy_Gap452026-02-01 15:56
Multiplier was already nerfed back in natlan, hence why skirk did almost the same as bina for example (65M). But with the same nerf, mav did 99M, you can count arle rerun but remember she got heavily powercrept by mav on rerun, and 5.3 was also mostly a dry patch compared to 6.3
tyjz73_2026-02-01 15:55
They changed the multiplier between the Mavuika banner and this one. It would be a similar result if they had kept the old one.
Grouchy_Gap452026-02-01 15:57
No since it would still be 80M, same as skirk and ofc below mavuika 100 M (which would be 120M) with the multiplier
tyjz73_2026-02-01 15:58
Mavuika banner also had Citlali and Arlecchino rerun.
Original-Shallot58422026-02-01 15:58
My guy, Mavuika banner is not just mavuika banner.
Mavuika banner was her, citlali (2 new characters, strongest duo in the game at that time)+ Chronicle wish (7 ? character reruns + 7 weapon reruns) + Hutao skin (do I need to explain?) + Arlecchino first rerun+ Clorinde first rerun.
Just by this comparison, columbina shits on that from a mile.
Grouchy_Gap452026-02-01 16:01
You 're the one being on copium: Columbina had ineffa, herself BIS who gained tremendous value thanks to NK meta, and that everyone skipped due to NK release. She also had neuvi skin (you know the one everyone call the dragon level character in CN), she also releases with a much better patch content wise than 6.3, and unlike mav, she wasnt doomposted to oblivion for being a "biker whore" and "main dps archon", yet she did way less. That's a fact
zeldaxlove882026-02-01 16:00
Whats the revenue diff between Mav and Bina? Atm cant access the site 'cause its down😆
LOwOJ2026-02-01 16:00
Sensor tower calculation is nerf i think during june or august to this day so all the revenue are generally low now.. you can look at it and compare to early 2025 to later year .. i think if they use the old calcs for CN she will be on 90m still not reach mavuika but thats the reason this looks low because all the revenue now are lower.
Mavuika clearly did better despite the hate she gets from a portion of the fanbase. Another W for the Pyro Archon.
Mael89Strom2026-02-01 15:44
I have C2R1 Columbina and got C0R1 Ineffa all in this banner (lost the weapon banner to Ineffa weapon lol). I am the one who will be in the vanguard to defend Bina against people from a certain headquarters. But man, 66M is kinda low is it not? I've read some dude commenting a copy pasta as to why it is the case in the gacha subreddit but still. Even if she gets GI to the top in January, her low sales will still be a point her haters will constantly bring up.
But then again, why does everyone's sale looks so low? Cause in normal times, 66M wouldn't even hit top place, much less in January when there would probably be a lot of sale or new year's event or something.
Various-Plenty-54382026-02-01 16:23
Yeah 66 does seem a bit low. I remember Mavuika/Citlali did 100m plus.
rloco2026-02-01 16:25
For years now, many of us have been playing more on PCs and consoles than on mobile devices, and the percentage increases every year. So, even though they invest a lot of money, they don't do it on mobile devices but on PCs, mainly because of the 30% commission charged by platforms such as the App Store and Google Play. Believe me, it has always been better to buy outside of those platforms.
The same problem occurs in ZZZ, but to a much greater extent. Now, HSR is different because it is a game that is played more on mobile devices due to its gameplay, so those 8 million are a problem.
IvyLestrange2026-02-01 16:37
Just my personal opinion but I think we will start to see games like Genshin/WuWa/Even HSR start to trend down a little on this chart. Not necessarily because of decreasing player count in general but because of decreasing player count on mobile since this chart I believe tracks mostly mobile sales. These games are becoming not just to much graphically for a number of phones but way to large. I mean heck, I don’t have any other large games on my phone as a console player, just a bunch of photos and a somewhat chunky iTunes library and I get concerned that my phone will run out of storage for LADS.
Personal-Apartment482026-02-01 16:59
To put this into comparison back in 2022 when the file size was lower even the eternal Ayaka banner was making 50k
Express-Bag-39352026-02-01 16:58
66m may seem low since she is also sandwiched in between loved mondstat characters Durin and also Varka coming up next. If Bina released with a Chronicled Wish rerun, Bina sales would shoot up.
Thundergod2502026-02-01 17:13
I guess Archons are just really on a different level. This will be 100M again on Tsaritsa.
jo_nigiri2026-02-01 18:40
To be honest I think it's because most mobile players I know physically can't play these games anymore. There's no more storage
Waeleto2026-02-01 15:45
Everyone say thank you Columbina (ik the "she's waifu bait" gang are mad af now)
PressFM802026-02-01 15:51
zero correlation?
she's blatant waifu bait. she's also the main push of nod krai. no shit she'd sell (which either way wasn't as much as mav, who herself didn't even do as well as the previous archon)
DevolayS2026-02-01 16:00
There are different tiers of waifu baits and I don't like throwing them all into one basket
Our relationship grew naturally over time, unlike the firefly situation in hsr where we got trauma dumped right after taking a short tour around Penacony the first day we met
If Columbina is a waifu bait, I hope other games take note how to handle this properly
KamijyoTeio2026-02-01 15:49
just preface Genshin will not go down as long there are other thing people can use money like Milliastra. Dawei really manage to get golden goose with that mode. can say sooner other gacha will do the same.
Izanagi322026-02-01 15:51
Wuwa keeping it steady, hopefully Aemeath and Luke sell well next month!
Silvercenturion_aa2026-02-01 15:51
FGO still being in top 10 after 10 years and the whole Part 2 Finale controversy:
"I've got one more in me"
Ridovi2026-02-01 16:03
"Finale Controversy"? Tell me more. I gave up on Order Call part.
Silvercenturion_aa2026-02-01 16:05
Sorry, I'll text you a more full explanation in private. I don't know why, but every time I try to put spoilers it just doesn't work.
Needless to say, Nasu's decision for the finale caused a lot of anger
Biobait2026-02-01 16:29
Keep in mind, the controversy was largely outside of Japan where it makes most of its revenue.
Silvercenturion_aa2026-02-01 16:32
Not as much as you think, I mean, the Japanese audience is usually way more calm in expressing their disappointment, and that's what happened. They were mad as well, but they didn't flaunt it like the rest.
Biobait2026-02-01 16:43
Do you have actual evidence of this unfalsifiable claim? It's not like the Japanese fanbase isn't capable of exploding in anger like with the servant coin fiasco. You'd expect a mass boycott of the game if they disliked it so much, not increase its revenue the following month.
Yotsubrain2026-02-01 16:41
May I ask a copy-paste of the explanation? Curious as well
ankitjad2026-02-01 16:24
Lost belts finale got criticized? Why?
ZachBart442026-02-01 22:19
>!MC lost their memory and timeline got reset to before they came to Chaldea, so it was like nothing had happened!<
ShimegawaShion2026-02-01 18:51
FGO has permanent guts active. It will revive itself no matter what happens (well as long as the story is good but I don't have to worry about that)
Pan1512026-02-01 22:42
So basically Heracles?
AigheLuvsekks_2026-02-02 05:49
It has this revolutionary idea of selling characters by making people invested in their writing instead of arbitrary damage numbers. Powercreep does exist ofc but to say its the reason people pull in fgo is misleading at best. Also despite the backlash, the ending isnt that bad, its bad for fgo standard which is still much better than a lot of things out there
JohnnySukuna2026-02-01 15:54
Holy Genshin Impact at the top? Free 10 pull plz Hoyo. Neuvi and Zibai are coming up
Human_Dragonfly74642026-02-01 15:55
Damn I thought they forgot to put hsr for a sec then I kept looking down.
WeepForTheDeparted2026-02-01 17:08
Yeah the entire patch last month was straight up boring
rW0HgFyxoJhYka2026-02-02 02:56
I mean the entire patch was straight up delayed for so they can I guess convert japan to murica or some shit. People have been calling HSR a huge disappoint ever since version 3.X ended.
Aint nobody gonna be spending money during these depressing times.
DeborahReadingReddit2026-02-02 04:25
I mean its not exactly their fault
Varaxis2026-02-01 23:12
Last month had Firefly and a new break support that brings that team back to contend with top meta. This month, they re-ran old supports from past version that got powercrept by the new break support. Maybe they though ppl would make a full fire break team with FF, new char, and 2 supports. Maybe people are still running harmony MC and other sustain units.
Robertxion72026-02-01 15:56
HOW DID BLUE ARCHIVE BEAT HONKAI STAR RAIL.
XD
noel13772026-02-01 16:29
i’ll assume you aren’t playing hsr, its currently suffering from an insanely dead phase which is extended because of the conflict in east asia and they are making many changes within a short window right now which also means they didn’t devote more than a 1min treasure hunt event to add to the patch
Soviet1342026-02-01 15:56
Expected for HSR, much expected
diego1marcus2026-02-01 16:53
honestly, i dunno why some people here were surprised to see HSR revenue down, considering that delay would obviously impact the sales. the moment they showed the 3.8 banners, including the aglaea + sunday reruns, i fully expected HSR to be way down until 4.0
people acting like the 3.8 story and powercreep heavily affected this month's sale is laughable, considering that HSR had high revenue during castorice, phainon, and even cyrene's banner. the moment HSR fell down, suddenly everyone here talking as if HSR would never recover from the dump and will EOS soon
Other_Beat88592026-02-01 19:55
Yeah. No one is pulling for this patch because why would you? We have the new meta around the corner and even the rerun characters aren't great. If it had been like an Evernight rerun or something like that, sales likely would've been decent, but there honestly was never a chance for good sales during this time period.
CryoStrange2026-02-01 15:58
Probably the weakest run for Hoyo standards, with Honkai in single digit millions, and ZZZ with their Void Hunter and Genshin had archon.
ribbonfood2026-02-01 16:18
For anyone wondering about ZZZ shunguang full banner, it made 42 mil from Dec 29 to Jan 31st which is quite impressive
The revenue is split between December and January, so the table for January shows ZZZ at 23 mil.
ZZZ was at 42 mil just 3 days ago for about Dec 29 to Jan 29. Seems like first 2-3 days of revenue contributed about 19mil. (42mil-23mil =19 mil).
New_Economist_94292026-02-01 15:58
The waves of boycotting Hoyo against Genshin are finally starting to pay off.
Relative-Prompt11012026-02-01 15:59
expected for HSR and i am sure it wiill be back to #1 this month / nothing to pull / nothing to do / already saved 140-150 pulls for 4.0
icoulduseagreencard2026-02-01 16:23
Yaoguang is not bringing hsr back to #1, lol.
1. Everyone had their time to save
2. She’s not that anticipated as a unit
3. Many people are uncertain if they want to go for elation in general
4. She’s also rumoured to be running for a whole month.
Unless the rest of the games truly have nothing this month, next revenue pvp is going to be a bit tragic for a X.0 patch. I’m predicting top 5 (+-2 spots) if they’re doing a spending event, top 10 if there is none.
MrCovell2026-02-01 16:01
I’m ngl I love Bina but they need to cook a little harder with these character kits and animations……..this is def lower than your average Archon/Archon adjacent revenue. Maybe it was because she has mid support cons or is very FTP friendly with weapon options, who knows.
Like the dude from the livestream said “Can our next character not have a ring on their back” lol
Entire-Magazine-42832026-02-01 16:23
They made a whole new walking/sprinting and plunge attack animation for Bina. So how did they not cook with the animations?!
ankitjad2026-02-01 16:01
Columbina flopped huh... Didn't evn reach close to 80m let alone 100m
KaedeP_222026-02-01 16:02
Columbillion dollars
Friendly-Gur-32892026-02-01 16:02
Bruh L&D 84 to 35....
Witterson2026-02-01 16:56
This was honestly expected! Most of January was occupied by a multi-character banner that started in December so a lot of whales had already spent their money on it by the time January tracking started. And unlike Genshin, LADS has gaps between their banners so there were 2-3 days after that banner ended where no one was pulling for anything. The rest of the month was just a normal solo banner.
Uruvi2026-02-01 16:03
I had to scroll thrice to find HSR holy shit that's the lowest i've seen of them
Natural_Ad15302026-02-01 16:07
HSR is about to have the biggest comeback ever. Or is gonna ruin the game even more with faster powercreep, and spending events.
Then_Following_64252026-02-01 16:58
Probably both. Big comeback but because powercreep and spending reasons.
isshinari2026-02-01 16:11
Honestly I'm rooting for HSR's downfall atp. Such a great story premise being absolutely ran into a brick wall.
Damian16742026-02-01 16:15
LIMBUSS COMPANYY
kuraokami892026-02-01 16:17
66 million isn't bad after all, since Columbina is only new unit unlike 99 millions last year for Mavuika, Citlali and Chronicles banner combine.
Cryogenx372026-02-01 16:31
I wonder how much more Endfield could’ve made if not for the PayPal glitch
Groundzer0es2026-02-01 16:42
Wtf is Naruto doing in top 2, is the Gacha good?
Extinctkid2026-02-01 16:52
Woah pretty good numbers for Enfield
Kaymish_2026-02-01 19:44
For sure it was only out on the 22^nd and already hit number 6. What will it pull in February when it has a whole month to earn.
matthewmspace2026-02-01 20:29
That’s always the hard part, maintaining players. The honeymoon period is over, now we wait and see if Hypergryph can maintain a playerbase that’ll spend.
No-Engineering12692026-02-01 22:16
It would depend of how they make the Gameplay retain players and what Will they offer banner wise(im saving for Rossi, i wanna make the siblings be in a team).
So i Guess until 1.1 or 1.2 we wont truly know how things are gonna get for them.
But It can be a honkai situation, with a core of franchice hardliners playing the Game and/or whaling It because it has the arknights Word in the title
3stoner2026-02-01 17:01
damn, rip HSR. hopefully they can pull it back next patch
Ewiwa_Moon2026-02-01 17:07
Honkai Star Rail has never ever been that low. I expected it to be low, but not THAT low
thor_dash2026-02-01 19:41
Well Genshin also 40% lower than the last archon banner. The floor going down for all games, only this time for the first time HSR having rerun banner the whole month.
Ok_Pattern_75112026-02-01 20:32
Not to say it isn't but last year was 2 new characters on the same banner so not a fair comparison
Disastrous-Jacket6102026-02-02 02:10
no new character in a month ofc it's gonna be low
shoggoth692026-02-01 17:08
Honestly it is surprising what limbus can achieve with such a low revenue
jo_nigiri2026-02-01 18:43
I was really surprised because all I hear from my brother and his friends is GLAZE for this game. It's like every banner they're freaking out about another hot guy or woman and spending all their savings on it. Maybe they just have a very dedicated playerbase lol
Vaaaaaaaaaaaii2026-02-01 21:52
In limbus? There's no reason to gacha you can do their version of Sim u and earn every charecter for free in a few hours.
pUkayi_m4ster2026-02-01 17:37
Of course it's Genshin the goat. It's impressive (but not surprising) especially considering it's over 5 years old. Since release it has always been a quality game. It's one of the only games where I've lasted playing it this long, albeit a few breaks.
WTFAnimations2026-02-01 23:38
ZZZ is doing more combined than HSR, Nikke and Umamusume. Dying game btw.
Commentaires
I think it's just getting to the point where its boring/stale
I know we are in between planets/main story. But there really isn't an incentive to log in, and no one is pulling because 4.x patches are coming up, and will most likely overpower everything else
Right now, I am not missing it, and the 4.x character previews they did really didn't make me excited either.
The devs have lost the trust of the HSR playerbase and it is deserved.
Even Ruri Gouko, a YouTuber that did 4-star only runs of the endgame modes couldn't keep doing them, the old units simply couldn't compete anymore, even when he had absolute mastery of the timings, mechanics buffs and debuffs.
It became simply a numbers game, the story was slow and stale, and they progressively started having less and less events, and made the few one they ran way too short.
I loved the Chimera event, but unlike Belobog's museum or the Alley one, it was criminally short.
The fact that they added Remembrance as a new path didn't help. It can do everything the other paths can, but with summons. That killed the path system identity.
I'll stay on Genshin and Zenless for the time being, I hope they don't follow HSR self-destructive path, especially Zenless which is still relatively new.
I also really liked that guinaifen huohuo influencer one. They need more big events like those.
Why would you think its healthy
Pve games of a live service nature are confined within time, money, and technology. Regardless of how talented or creative a dev would be, those restrictions will lead to a situation where eventually they can't create something new that will cause excitement or anticipation in the playerbase. This is especially true in genshin, where the gameplay is incredibly non dynamic. Essentially, all off fielders are an EQ bot, and many on fielders tend to be variations of a NA or CA spammer. If you compare it, to say wuthering waves or where winds meet, which allows for more expression in terms of gameplay.
In other words, they could only create so many Pyro dps within the same power level that would be different enough in terms of their kit before players get bored. As a result, having a small dose of powercreep to further incentives the community to want them is needed for the long-term health of the game. And genshin had powercreep from 1.0 every live service pve game, whether it be looters, mmos, gachas hell, even minecraft, which adds new stuff like auto chest sorters which increase productivity essentially.
The powercreep since stygian, however, has massively amplified. 110k at the start of natlan was considered absolutely top tier. Now all 3 nord krai dps in their best teams hover around 150k dps. That is a massive escalation and is not healthy.
Did you mean Chiori?
In Genshin, you are still quite alright running 1.0 characters since several new mechanics re-enabled them or at least kept them average.
In HSR, old characters just didn't compare at all. I like HSR, but new content just feels very very hard trying it with old characters or characters that have been rather... unique in the first place.
that then got me to accidentally quit because I stopped feeling pressure to login to collect welkin every day until I just stopped logging in at all
Hsr management are reaping what they sowed. Hopefully genshin team are taking notes to avoid that themselves now. Would be the best for everyone.
Plus Jean really showing the ropes with all the fun fall damage cheese she can pull off.
To this day, Bennett is very meta. Several 4 stars have seen more use than the lifespan of 5 stars.
If powercreep is the reason for hsr fall I can see genshin calming down on theirs to keep players happy.
Also there’s like 2 or 3 usable 4 stars and so many characters have no good F2P weapons. The past year was in the Remembrance planet and they did some kind of wierd pivot so Remembrance is now mostly HP scaling when it was another stat focused on release and released no Hp remembrance free weapons so the difference between a BP or 5* and your best F2P option is like 30%+.
It is patch 3.8 and The latest Abyss like thing my Herta from 3.0 C0R0 team takes 8-9 cycles and my Evernight C0R1 from 3.6 takes 2-3 cycles. Like wtf is this these are two DPS from the same year and Hertas team does 1/3rd the damage while also being ATK scaling so much easier to die with. Meanwhile Herta has a F2P weapon that is 15 or 20% worse not 40% worse. Ugh.
Meanwhile my E0S1 Evernight team is smoking PF with 40k 🙃
Literally the most recent Arle/Zhongli rerun still managed to pull over 20m+ last September solo. Obviously nowhere as big as their heyday, buy still.
And Arlecchino's alright too ig
It's also getting harder and harder to justify pulling for old dpses because of how bad powercreep has gotten, and I say this as someone who was still gonna pull on banners of 1.x dpses last year
Basically, you have to multiply by X2 or X3 to get a rough idea of the actual profit, and on Android, since they don't take it into account either, the same page says to multiply by 1.75, I think that was the profit.
If GI is dead, the figures say otherwise.
Good times.
Note: I'm not saying I'm against endgame content.
ZZZ's introduction of a new path was so much better than HSR it's not even funny atp
There were up and down with genshin, there're things to be improved, but it's never fell so bad that I want to quit. It has its charm making me want to see it through.
On the contrary for hsr, the past year was really bad. I will give the 4.0 one last chance, if things don't get improved, I think I'll also quit
Everything that HSR did that felt fresh when it came out had been just lost and it's a shame. I love the Astral Express crew but those guys alone can't save everything else.
I am curious about next month.
Was doing BP, monthly, and the annual double top up but have dropped everything but the monthly since the middle of 3.x.
The constant double 5-star releases with no 4-stars felt overwhelming (especially compared to Genshin’s release rate and rarity rates) and now they are pushing out nearly as many SPs as they are new characters so we are just pulling for the same characters we already have, the the latter getting power crept out.
Stack this with events being low effort and the story being unnecessarily wordy like HI3 and my interest in the game is pretty much gone.
Mizuki is still a new character that some people wanted. We only have reruns right now and we're right before 4.0.
I wouldn't be surprised seeing ZZZ so low in that scenario, it's a very mobile unfriendly game.
I'd bet it's doing really good numbers if you're looking at all platforms.
True; most of them want just put on evidence some event (CN vs JP) and/or protect their game.
But in the gachagames sub a lot of ppl already said it.
did it get as low?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin\_Impact/comments/v2jlxi/genshin\_impact\_mobile\_revenue\_and\_downloads/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/v2jlxi/genshin_impact_mobile_revenue_and_downloads/)
- 2 rerun for characters already rerunned numerous times last year
And obviously no new characters for the delay.
Plus back to regular good old Arknights.
No point whaling in that game because dps get powercrept every 2 or 3 patches. At least Mavuika was top dog for over a year. And she still is top 2 if you know her combos.
Consider this. Neuvilette and Dan Heng IL released around the same time. Neuvilette is still a decently meta character, meanwhile DHIL is completely washed.
Ppl here on reddit will throw all their own agendas and personal reasons to exaggerate why it is bad but trust me it is far from falling off as they claimed.
If anything wait for the 4.0 update first.
While the more charas, even if they're old, is rewarded in Genshin, i can build friendship, build for Abyss/Theatre, build whack units like healer-shielder Yanfei and still be able to complete endgame and story. Only thing i've seen people mad about is waiting 2 years fir an Albedo rerun but i think they are handling it better than HSR, he was never meta, i played with him and Ningguang since he came out, now he got a buff so he's still usable.
And i think we shouldn't have more than 2 banners at the same time, it's the problem HSR has, you wanna pull the new dps but their supports are also on the banner so you gotta top up or save for a year to get the whole team.
Well, seems like the majority does not approve your opinion.
Who is right and who is wrong?
Not surprising tbh considering western genshin audience's hate boner for Natlan
HSR is a hit or miss, I had some fun with it, but it's increasingly annoying and boring. I took another break from it 2 weeks ago. Actually, I dropped all my gachas for now, except Genshin. I don't like the direction ZZZ took, and I'm not a fan of cheap nostalgia tricks in HI3rd. It really looks like only the Genshin team puts actual thought and effort into their work.
What?
- HSR was severely affected due to the whole China/Japan conflict and had to extend this patch's duration as a result, which means this chart is only counting reruns
- ZZZ had their most successful patch of all time with Ye Shunguang, Zhao and the Alice/Astra/Sanby discounted banner
This has less to do with "putting in the work", it's more just the current banners of each game
Once HSR make more than Genshin when 4.0 launch we’ll be back to the “HSR only make so much money because powercreep” comments.
Edit: Sorry for those in the comments I dared to offense by saying that. But once again my intention wasnt to trash any characters, columbina is great character just as mavuika is for those who liked each. I am such a fan of ineffa I am legit pissed I missed my 50/50 on her, sandbina agenda always make me smile, and Nefer/jahoda are my favorite NK characters... My aim was simply the natlan hate agenda, especially the agenda targeting revenue, and trashtalking natlan by praising NK on that matter
Many people including myself regretted skipping her initial release, both because of her performance and because her character got much more lovable.
Mavuika banner was her, citlali (2 new characters, strongest duo in the game at that time)+ Chronicle wish (7 ? character reruns + 7 weapon reruns) + Hutao skin (do I need to explain?) + Arlecchino first rerun+ Clorinde first rerun.
Just by this comparison, columbina shits on that from a mile.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1lofqoq/ios\_cn\_june\_2025\_sensor\_tower\_numbers\_seem\_lower/](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1lofqoq/ios_cn_june_2025_sensor_tower_numbers_seem_lower/)
But then again, why does everyone's sale looks so low? Cause in normal times, 66M wouldn't even hit top place, much less in January when there would probably be a lot of sale or new year's event or something.
The same problem occurs in ZZZ, but to a much greater extent. Now, HSR is different because it is a game that is played more on mobile devices due to its gameplay, so those 8 million are a problem.
she's blatant waifu bait. she's also the main push of nod krai. no shit she'd sell (which either way wasn't as much as mav, who herself didn't even do as well as the previous archon)
Our relationship grew naturally over time, unlike the firefly situation in hsr where we got trauma dumped right after taking a short tour around Penacony the first day we met
If Columbina is a waifu bait, I hope other games take note how to handle this properly
"I've got one more in me"
Needless to say, Nasu's decision for the finale caused a lot of anger
Aint nobody gonna be spending money during these depressing times.
XD
people acting like the 3.8 story and powercreep heavily affected this month's sale is laughable, considering that HSR had high revenue during castorice, phainon, and even cyrene's banner. the moment HSR fell down, suddenly everyone here talking as if HSR would never recover from the dump and will EOS soon
The revenue is split between December and January, so the table for January shows ZZZ at 23 mil.
ZZZ was at 42 mil just 3 days ago for about Dec 29 to Jan 29. Seems like first 2-3 days of revenue contributed about 19mil. (42mil-23mil =19 mil).
1. Everyone had their time to save
2. She’s not that anticipated as a unit
3. Many people are uncertain if they want to go for elation in general
4. She’s also rumoured to be running for a whole month.
Unless the rest of the games truly have nothing this month, next revenue pvp is going to be a bit tragic for a X.0 patch. I’m predicting top 5 (+-2 spots) if they’re doing a spending event, top 10 if there is none.
Like the dude from the livestream said “Can our next character not have a ring on their back” lol
So i Guess until 1.1 or 1.2 we wont truly know how things are gonna get for them.
But It can be a honkai situation, with a core of franchice hardliners playing the Game and/or whaling It because it has the arknights Word in the title