Why the hate??

Well, I always knew what this Guensin Impact thing was, but I don't have much time to waste, so I choose carefully where I'm going to have fun. Before starting this game, I asked a lot of people, and I also looked for many comments on YouTube to see if it was worth starting, if it was a good game, and 90% of the comments were:
"If you want to lose your sanity, yes"

"This game is crap"

"Spend your time on something more useful"

So for years this kept me away. Finally, I'm on vacation from college and I don't have any pending studies, so I came to test it after all these years and, look, with 17 hours of gameplay I'm having a lot of fun, there's a lot of content, I haven't spent anything yet. I don't know if I was lucky that I got a 5-star character called Ineffa, but I'm not even using it because I'm not finding the game difficult. Why did they say so many bad things? Doesn't the game community like the game? Or is it really going to become a piece of junk in the future?

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Lonely_Station_84352026-02-01 19:27

It’s popular to hate Genshin because it’s a very successful game that has the gacha mechanic.

The same people that gamble away their wages on counter strike lootboxes also say you shouldn’t play Genshin because of the gacha mechanics.

In the end just form your own opinion, I went in sceptical at launch mostly due to the Zelda allegations but I’m still playing to this day and having a blast.

xVelunax2026-02-01 20:41

At the same time, Genshin Impact did improve greatly over time. Playing through some of the older areas I did not realize that starting with Inazuma the wooden chests started giving 2 primogems per while in Monstadt/Liyue they did not.

The game started with arguably very little content all things considered in its first year. Monstadt is pretty barren place to explore considering the other areas.

Sumeru was awful with all of the underground exploration and absolutely no map for it. I'm not sure when that got added in, but it makes playing the game so much more bearable in those areas.

Rain used to be literally impossible to climb walls without causing you to slide down and they got rid of that and I'm very glad they did. The endgame content was much less as well. You had Abyss and that was it. Now, we have the wonderlands, stygian, teapot, imaginitum theater, and the TCG.

The tools for exploration got better as well. There used to not be any treasure chest compass or culus compass. I took a break after Sumeru for 2 years, the story quality imo really improved from Fontaine onwards.

I will love to go through Natlan/Fontaine/Nod Krai now compared to the earlier versions. There are fewer and fewer puzzles which force me to swap out my teams. It was super annoying changing out characters for bow and specific elemental usage all the time.

MegalFresh2026-02-01 19:27

Most of the people who play the game DO enjoy it. Haters are just very loud.

-Drogozi-2026-02-01 19:28

It's a gacha and genshin specifically is internets punching bag for being the first big/still the biggest one so it draws ire like no other.

There is also gacha tribalism which runs deep in some places.

Certain groups have grown hostile towards it for certain things big or small and due to nature of the game, got excessively emotional about it.

As long as you are mindful of the gacha stuff the game is good. Have fun.

Nelogenazea2026-02-01 19:28

I'll leave the discussion about how groups will always talk down other groups' favorite things for the other commenters and just answer your final question(s).

Yeah, the community does like the game, otherwise they wouldn't play it. There are issues with the game and they need to be discussed so they can be fixed, but if they wouldn't like the game, these issues wouldn't be discussed in the first place.

Also, though the devs said they plan to keep the Genshin IP going for at least the next decade or so (in whatever form that may be), even if they stay true to their word, yes, eventually every game will eventually shut down, it is inevitable. Eventually, the money and time I have spent on this game will disappear into the aether as the servers go down, but that's not what matters. What matters is the fun you had before that. And it's your call on whether that is worth it in the moment, not some years in the future.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-01 19:31

I agree with that; all the money I spend on entertainment is money well spent, as long as it doesn't close tomorrow. I don't care if it closes in 5, 6, or 7 years; entertainment is meant to make me happy, nothing more.

Sky_striker_Raye2026-02-01 19:29

Because people spit their narrative by their pov. Not your Pov. Its just that simple. If u try the game and have fun, meaning that game is for u at that moment. If u dont have fun, then there is no reason to not looking another game?
Is this the perfect game? Heck no. Does it have flaw? Yes. But the important thing is, all of these contents the game offers to u, do u have fun with the experiece? And thats the answer that only u can find.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-01 19:33

For me, just being "free" and having this much content is already good enough, but the hate was so intense that I kept thinking, "Wow, at some point this game is going to troll me," lol, so I came to ask you more experienced players.

Sky_striker_Raye2026-02-01 19:38

Gacha is always a trolling genre. Doesnt matter which game u play. Its designed to make u spend money. How do u deal with it is another story. If u are looking for advice. As a player who played this game for 5 years straight, just play the story, at least the main archon quests, then takes some times to explore the world. Do some side quests, finding your favorite character. Do daily missions. Pretty much normal activity for any OW gacha game. Though u might get overwhelm because of getting through 5 years worth of story, but give it a try. Each region has their own story.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-01 19:44

Do you think the reason I had the courage to download it was because it has a great story and beautiful graphics? I personally love a good story, and so far it's well-written. I don't know if it gets better or worse. I didn't like the side quests very much, but I rarely find a game that does good side quests. So far, the main story has made me want to understand it, but I'm still at the very beginning because I spend a lot of time wandering around.

Sky_striker_Raye2026-02-01 19:51

Well. I can understand why u download it. Its simply just u want to give it a try. And so far u feel like its a good pay off. But just keep that in mind there is no story that is always peak. There will be up and down. Hype and boring moments. About side quests tho, i still recommend doing them because they build quite a lot to the world, even the event quests we have right now. And u will be surprised that a lot of quests even touch some serious problems for example: child abusing, betrayal, life and death moments.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-01 20:00

It made me more cheerful, thanks!

this_lightkeeper2026-02-01 19:30

it has become a trend to hate on GI

MyDearMonarch2026-02-01 19:30

Hating things are cool circa forever. Don't listen unless you care at all.

Ill_Gap_38892026-02-01 19:33

Cuz its "cool" to hate on something popular. Other than that its most likely people who don't have the patience to actually play a game or work hard to be able to gamble or people who lost in the gacha in general lol

I've been playing the game since launch and while there are things I wish could be improved on, its already vastly different and perhaps even better game than it was when it released. But ofc many refuse to acknowledge any changes if it doesn't serve their agenda or fit their fan demands.

what-the-helll2026-02-01 19:38

Ultimately, you’ll have to make your own opinion as you play but as someone who’s played for more than a couple years and is up to date on the story, I think it’s a great game and it doesn’t get worse at all. If anything, the story gets better after the first few regions

Genshin got really popular during 2020 so it got a lot of attention from a wide audience. People often hate what’s popular but Genshin is a great live service game. It has good exploration, combat, and story

The gacha factor is predatory but you can play completely F2P, it just takes longer and more planning to get the characters you want

Ineffa is great too, one of the best characters right now. Columbina who is on the banner too is great alongside her

Have fun!

JAntaresN2026-02-01 19:38

Gacha tribalism; some are just salty their favorite waifu game isn’t the most popular.

Others are just ex-players with a victim mentality that somehow the game scammed them.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-01 19:45

I understand, that makes sense.

TheAsz2026-02-01 19:44

Because genshin in general just become so big. All the hatred pretty much normal. After the release of genshin almost every single game that similar type of genshin be calling as "genshin killer" or something.

lenky0412026-02-01 19:45

Because it is famous + popular

People love to hate popular things to act like they are different and pretending they are better (like Edgy teenagers)

PaulStarhaven2026-02-01 19:48

The difficulty exists for specific endgame mores called Stygian Onslaught, Spiral Abyss and Imaginarium Theater. If you ignore them, the rest is super manageable ad you shouldn't have problems with overworld combat for the most part. Personally speaking it is one of the best games available right now, the main thing that puts people of is that it's a gacha game. Besides that there's like vocal minorities about literally any grievance you can think of, and since Genshin's playerbase is so huge, even that minority is a pretty sizable number.

PandaBlueDance2026-02-01 19:53

Why do voices on the Internet hate anything? Best way to judge something is to try for yourself, especially on something that doesn’t cost anything except your time.

Educational_Form65492026-02-01 19:55

I don't hate the game though it is kinda all over the play writing and lorewise. It's just the lack of characters, who aren't npcs, that aren't white or extremely extremely lightskin (cough cyno and deyha).

Nefiri? White. Who is she? An EGYPTIAN goddess.

Anubis? White. They call him herminubis or whatever a mix of Hermes and Anubis.

The entirety of Natlan. There's non white npcs here and there sure but the playable characters? All white. Except one character and she's ashy black and a 4 star.

Sumeru Characters. Non desert dwellers are supposed to be tanner then that while the dessert dwellers are supposed to be darker then what they were made to be.

Hoyoverse can make them have melanin because they do it with npcs, but they chose not to and it's frustrating. Even the enemies are more dark skinned then the playable characters.

Managlyph2026-02-01 20:00

The more popular something is, the more hate it receives. It's not all warranted though, some people just like to hate without even trying the game. Of course, not every aspect is good (like gacha and gear farming RNG and dialogue bloat), but the game is very enjoyable and beautiful and is actually getting better. Don't worry about it becoming a piece of junk in the future.

Ineffa is good. You might not need her in the Overworld now, you'll probably want to use her in the endgame modes.

Hope you have fun!

Fit_Industry61822026-02-01 20:00

17 hours into Genshin, and OP is already done with his review of “this game is easy.”

Oh man.

Would love to hear your edited review 200 hours from now when you apologize for sounding so naive, lol.

YASKI_EU2026-02-01 20:32

Not even 200, just wait until they get to that Dragonspine quest lol

Suspicious_You46042026-02-01 20:47

This is exciting me, I like challenges.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-01 20:46

I said that so far I'm finding it easy, I didn't say it was easy, and I hope it isn't. I hate easy games. If I played for 17 hours, obviously my review would be about those 17 hours. I still don't see the future.

Grimsdol2026-02-01 20:07

Because Genshin is the face of Gacha Games, and Gachas are very looked down upon (and rightfully so) for greedy monetization and gambling mechanics, especially in a teen's game.

324Cats2026-02-01 20:12

why are you wasting your time with youtube comments?

SubstantialYak65722026-02-01 20:45

Let this be a lesson in never using other people's opinions in place of your own. You have to get rid of the habit of only trying what other people say is good and not trying what other people say is bad. It shouldn't take you years to do that, it should take less than 1 second because it's common sense.

People have different opinions, people like and dislike different things, it's human nature and is why we use our own judgement instead of letting others decide for us.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-01 20:51

I don't always have time to test multiple games to form an opinion. I study a lot, but my post was about why so much hate, because I see that the game is good; my question is whether there would be a catch in about 40 hours.

issm2026-02-02 00:27

F2P games are monetized based on a model the industry calls "hook habit hobby"

I'll let a mobile games CEO explain it:

https://youtu.be/xNjI03CGkb4?si=9ppYqfQaevk_kJ6z&t=225

You're in the hook phase of the game.

The game is lavishing rewards on you so that you make a habit out of logging in every day to play a while.

The amount of content isn't just Mihoyo being awesome either. If you fast forward to ~16:30 in that same video, they straight up say: Whales take longer to convert ("convert" in games monetization terms just means going from a free player to a paying player), so make sure you have plenty of content.

> Or is it really going to become a piece of junk in the future?

Genshin is a single player PvE game.

The problem with that is that single player, PvE experiences take a hell of a lot longer to create than they take to consume. Even a major patch only contains 15-20 hours of content at best. If you have an hour or two per day of gaming time, maybe 4-5 hours on a weekend, you can get through a major patch worth of content in a week or two - never mind the filler patches.

However, the game is still a live service. Even if there's no new content, the game still needs you to log in and engage with it every day. To accomplish that, like most other gacha games, Genshin is full of mechanics designed to force you to constantly engage with the game whether you want it or not.

If you want new characters, you'll have to log in every day to engage with daily quests and events to farm for free pulls - especially after the permanent sources you're using during the hook phase of the game are tapped out. To build characters, you'll have to log in every day to use resin.

Once you hit the "habit" and "hobby" parts of the monetization process, your interaction with the game just mostly ends up being grinding to get characters, then grinding to upgrade them, interspersed with stories written to sell you more characters.

This subreddit loves to praise Genshin for being different from and uniquely better than other gacha games, but it really isn't. It just has more modern, flashier presentation. It has the same fundamental structure as every other gacha game.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-02 02:54

That's the thing, I don't care even 1% about characters in this game. Whatever the game gives me for free, I'm fine with it. If that's the only purpose of the game, it's going to lose badly for me. I just want to enjoy the story and the map. If the PvE is good, and if the story continues to be good, I won't need to spend a single cent. It's difficult for the company to hook me with this "look at that cute character" thing. I simply don't care. My character could be a walking potato. What matters to me is that the gameplay is interesting. I come from MMO RPGs, and I always play with only one class because I hate switching characters. In Genshin, in the hours I've played, I already have more than 8 characters. For me, that's already excessive, haha. If that's all it is, the company lost badly for me. Regarding daily interactions and things like that, it's quite normal in MMOs, I'm used to it. Thanks for the information, brother, this text must have been a lot of work, thanks a lot.

issm2026-02-02 11:37

> If that's the only purpose of the game, it's going to lose badly for me.

It loses badly for 90% of players. The way the F2P model works is, the F2Ps are there mostly to be content for the whales, and the whales generate so much revenue it's worth more in the end than if every single user paid a fair price for the game.

> I just want to enjoy the story and the map

The story and open world are both clearly warped around selling characters. You might not mind it, but it's absolutely still there.

> I come from MMO RPGs, and I always play with only one class because I hate switching characters

> In Genshin, in the hours I've played, I already have more than 8 characters.

Speaking from a purely gameplay perspective, you should think of characters in a gacha game less as "characters", and more as "swappable skill packs", where you need a full set (aka team) of skills in order to do content.

In a typical MMO, you're given new skills naturally as you level up, and all content is designed with the skills you have available in mind.

Gacha games don't naturally give you more skills the more you play, and content is most definitely designed to require new "skills", whether you decide to get them or not.

For reference, basic field elite enemies in the newest regions have far more HP and attack than even the weekly bosses (generally the strongest class of enemies) in the original regions, and that's not considering the gimmicks that the mobs have, which are specifically designed to advantage the newest "skills".

Open world can still be cleared regardless what you pulled for, but it can turn into a pretty major slog. Endgame is also (mostly) clearable without getting all of the lastest meta characters, but the difficulty can spike pretty dramatically.

Suspicious_You46042026-02-02 16:34

I understand, yes, the company has to find a way to monetize, but I also understand that gacha monetization seems to be the most predatory possible. It would be more fun to buy the character than to have it be random. Let's see how much fun I have with it. Luckily, I'm a guy who plays purely for fun. The moment this game stops entertaining me, I'll download something else, but I'll probably entertain myself with it for a while, maybe even spend some money since it's free-to-play, but at most around $350, which is the price of a new release game here in Brazil. Thanks for the information, friend.